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#state-of-mayflower-v-nukhz
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Brit
Brit 2025-07-04 11:13 p.m.
Thank you @Toby I'll send the CI and AOPC here later today
Brit
Brit 2025-07-04 11:35 p.m.
CI and AOPC have been filed on the website ^
BritBrit
CI and AOPC have been filed on the website ^
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-05 05:47 a.m.
Can you comply with the chamber rules thanks
Brit
Brit 2025-07-05 07:47 a.m.
Ah will do in future
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-05 09:59 a.m.
ex parte disclosure
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Toby
Toby 2025-07-06 07:49 p.m.
@DauuX hello
Toby
Toby 2025-07-06 07:49 p.m.
I'm a little confused
Toby
Toby 2025-07-06 07:49 p.m.
You're here to defend the defendant?
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-06 07:49 p.m.
Hello
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-06 07:49 p.m.
Yes
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-06 07:49 p.m.
MSC allows JAGC to provide defence to guardsmen in criminal proceedings
Toby
Toby 2025-07-06 08:05 p.m.
ok
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-06 08:50 p.m.
We ask that the case be handled speedily as Mr Nukhz has been placed on AL by an order of the DOJ
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-06 08:50 p.m.
And is thus enjoined from, well, doing anything in Clark
DauuXDauuX
We ask that the case be handled speedily as Mr Nukhz has been placed on AL by an order of the DOJ
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 09:35 a.m.
Ok
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 09:35 a.m.
Let's do arraignment
DauuXDauuX
MSC allows JAGC to provide defence to guardsmen in criminal proceedings
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-07 12:09 p.m.
How has JAGC come up with the determination that Nukhz is in financial difficulties which is a pre-requisite for 3 M.S.C. 4 3403
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-07 12:10 p.m.
and as such, entitled for JAGC to defend him.
Brit
Brit 2025-07-07 12:15 p.m.
@Toby Your Honour State would ask for a hearing on the above matter to ensure compliance with state law in respect to JAGC's representation of the Defendant
AlbertBlackwellAlbertBlackwell
How has JAGC come up with the determination that Nukhz is in financial difficulties which is a pre-requisite for 3 M.S.C. 4 3403
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:31 p.m.
Are you a party to the proceedings?
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:33 p.m.
As far as I am aware, Mr Albert has ordered the administrative leave of my client even before probable cause has been established by this Court. I am thus uncertain whether he is acting as a co-counsel for State here or merely a clerk
DauuXDauuX
Are you a party to the proceedings?
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-07 12:35 p.m.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:35 p.m.
I wish to point to the Court that 3 M.S.C. 4 § 3403 entitles guardsmen to legal representation by the JAGC "at no cost" if they are in a financial difficulty. It does not mean that those not in financial difficulty are automatically ineligible for defence at all, just that they may be charged for the services provided
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:37 p.m.
Simply said, § 3403 makes it clear that there does not exist an inherent bar on such representation.
Brit
Brit 2025-07-07 12:40 p.m.
The wording of the interpretation implies it's outlining the circumstances in which JAGC may represent individuals accused of crimes, who are guardsmen but obviously I'd leave such a matter to the court
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:40 p.m.
So you've just omitted the "at no cost" part because that's it
Brit
Brit 2025-07-07 12:41 p.m.
No we're referrng to different parts
Brit
Brit 2025-07-07 12:41 p.m.
sb
DauuXDauuX
I wish to point to the Court that 3 M.S.C. 4 § 3403 entitles guardsmen to legal representation by the JAGC "at no cost" if they are in a financial difficulty. It does not mean that...
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:41 p.m.
Has he made an attempt to retain civilian counsel
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:42 p.m.
I do not know, nor does it matter
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:42 p.m.
I think you find it does
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:42 p.m.
If you read the statute
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:42 p.m.
I did
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:42 p.m.
It says they are eligible for free representation if they are in a financial difficulty
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:42 p.m.
It does not say "they are otherwise ineligible"
Brit
Brit 2025-07-07 12:42 p.m.
So is he receiving free representation?
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:42 p.m.
Then you'll see that he's eligible to be represented by JAGC if he can't afford civilian counsel
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:43 p.m.
So has he made an attempt to retain civilian counsel
TobyToby
Then you'll see that he's eligible to be represented by JAGC if he can't afford civilian counsel
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:43 p.m.
To be represented by JAGC at no cost
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:43 p.m.
You cannot omit a phrase in statutory interpretation
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:43 p.m.
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:43 p.m.
Read it
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:43 p.m.
"And are not able to afford civilian counsel"(edited)
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:43 p.m.
Where does it say that they cannot be otherwise represented by JAGC
Brit
Brit 2025-07-07 12:43 p.m.
Is he paying for his representation @Adam
Brit
Brit 2025-07-07 12:43 p.m.
@DauuX *
DauuXDauuX
Where does it say that they cannot be otherwise represented by JAGC
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:44 p.m.
It says he can, if he can't afford civilian counsel
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:44 p.m.
Now answer my question
Brit
Brit 2025-07-07 12:44 p.m.
Out of curiosity
TobyToby
"And are not able to afford civilian counsel"(edited)
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:44 p.m.
"eligible for legal advice and legal representation at no cost . . . if they . . . are not able to afford civilian counsel because of a genuine financial difficulty"
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:45 p.m.
Yes exactly, so has he made an attempt to retain civilian counsel and seen that he can't afford it
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:45 p.m.
No one is saying he is eligible for representation at no cost
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:45 p.m.
So it's irrelevant
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:45 p.m.
I'll decide what is relevant and what isn't
DauuXDauuX
No one is saying he is eligible for representation at no cost
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:46 p.m.
Has he made an attempt
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:46 p.m.
Yes or no
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:46 p.m.
As I said, I wouldn't know
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:46 p.m.
@alex
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:46 p.m.
If this Court so wishes, I can instead appear as an independent counsel
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:46 p.m.
That would be fine
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:46 p.m.
It does not make any difference to me
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:46 p.m.
But this Court's interpretation of the statute would be flawed, as it entirely skips a phrase
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:47 p.m.
Which is very much a no in statutory interpretation
DauuXDauuX
But this Court's interpretation of the statute would be flawed, as it entirely skips a phrase
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:47 p.m.
What statute allows you to represent him if he pays for it
TobyToby
What statute allows you to represent him if he pays for it
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:48 p.m.
The point is that there is nothing prohibiting it
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:48 p.m.
And I do not see why it would
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:48 p.m.
why it would be prohibited, that is
DauuXDauuX
The point is that there is nothing prohibiting it
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:48 p.m.
That isn't the point
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:48 p.m.
You're twisting the words of a statute
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:48 p.m.
No...?
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:49 p.m.
To try and tell the court you're allowed to represent him
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:49 p.m.
Just because he's paying for it, when the statute says you can rep him at no costs if he can't afford civilian counsel
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:49 p.m.
With all due respect I think the prosecution is twisting the words by throwing out a phrase out of it
DauuXDauuX
With all due respect I think the prosecution is twisting the words by throwing out a phrase out of it
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:49 p.m.
What the prosecution says right now isn't being taken into account
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:49 p.m.
I think the statute's intent was to ensure that poorer guardsmen are guaranteed counsel
DauuXDauuX
I think the statute's intent was to ensure that poorer guardsmen are guaranteed counsel
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:50 p.m.
Yes, but he isn't poor according to you
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:50 p.m.
He's paying for it
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:50 p.m.
I don't know if he is poor or not
DauuXDauuX
I don't know if he is poor or not
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:50 p.m.
Then you should find out
TobyToby
Then you should find out
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:50 p.m.
It would matter if he were trying to obtain representation at no cost
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:50 p.m.
Because you're statute that allows you to rep him is on the basis that he is poor
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:50 p.m.
No...
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:50 p.m.
The statute allows me to rep him at no cost
DauuXDauuX
It would matter if he were trying to obtain representation at no cost
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:51 p.m.
Yes, but he isn't, you're charging him, which there is no statute allowing you to do so as jagc
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:51 p.m.
Who said I'm charging him
DauuXDauuX
The statute allows me to rep him at no cost
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:51 p.m.
If he is poor
DauuXDauuX
Who said I'm charging him
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:51 p.m.
You did
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:51 p.m.
No
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:51 p.m.
Yes
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:51 p.m.
Then what are you doing then
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:51 p.m.
If you're not
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:51 p.m.
Because your speech implied he's paying for it(edited)
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:52 p.m.
No, I said we do not claim he is entitled to representation at no cost
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:52 p.m.
JAGC does not charge anyone for defence in criminal or civil proceedings
DauuXDauuX
I wish to point to the Court that 3 M.S.C. 4 § 3403 entitles guardsmen to legal representation by the JAGC "at no cost" if they are in a financial difficulty. It does not mean that...
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:52 p.m.
.
DauuXDauuX
JAGC does not charge anyone for defence in criminal or civil proceedings
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:52 p.m.
Then what are you doing here
TobyToby
.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:52 p.m.
I'm explaining the purpose of the statute
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:52 p.m.
You said you don't know if he can't afford civilian counsel(edited)
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:53 p.m.
He asked me to represent him
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:53 p.m.
So you jumped the gun
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:53 p.m.
Is what you're saying
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:53 p.m.
Is there anything prohibiting JAGC from representing anyone Your Honour
DauuXDauuX
Is there anything prohibiting JAGC from representing anyone Your Honour
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:53 p.m.
Under these circumstances yes
DauuXDauuX
Is there anything prohibiting JAGC from representing anyone Your Honour
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-07 12:53 p.m.
That would be 3 M.S.C. 4 3402
TobyToby
Under these circumstances yes
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:54 p.m.
Not at all
AlbertBlackwellAlbertBlackwell
That would be 3 M.S.C. 4 3402
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:54 p.m.
There we go then
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-07 12:55 p.m.
Which is then followed by the eligibility criteria for guardsmen.
DauuXDauuX
Not at all
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:55 p.m.
Yes, because you're appearing here saying you're defending him under a statute that allows you to do so if he can't afford civilian counsel, you then said you fotn know if he can't afford it
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:55 p.m.
Yes. As I said, § 3403 establishes regulations for representation at no cost
DauuXDauuX
Yes. As I said, § 3403 establishes regulations for representation at no cost
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:55 p.m.
On the basis he can't afford civilian counsel
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:55 p.m.
Which you said you don't know if he can or can't
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:56 p.m.
So you've jumped the gun
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:56 p.m.
My reliance on it (although I did not clarify it, for which I duly apologise) was intended to suggest that there is not an inherent COI or bias
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:56 p.m.
Appearing here
DauuXDauuX
My reliance on it (although I did not clarify it, for which I duly apologise) was intended to suggest that there is not an inherent COI or bias
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:56 p.m.
Bias or coi aren't the problem, it's whether you're authorised by statute to appear here(edited)
TobyToby
Bias or coi aren't the problem, it's whether you're authorised by statute to appear here(edited)
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:56 p.m.
§ 3402 then
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-07 12:56 p.m.
3407 further solidifies this.
DauuXDauuX
§ 3402 then
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:57 p.m.
Did you or did you not say you don't know if he can't afford civilian counsel
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:57 p.m.
I did say that because I do not know
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:57 p.m.
My reliance on the statute was not meant to suggest that he cannot do so
DauuXDauuX
I did say that because I do not know
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:57 p.m.
So then it's settled
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:57 p.m.
You've jumped the gun
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:57 p.m.
I am statutorily authorised to represent him
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:57 p.m.
The statute only allows you to rep him if he can't afford civilian counsel
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:57 p.m.
§ 3402
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:58 p.m.
And you haven't checked if he can afford it or not
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:58 p.m.
Therefore you have jumped the gun
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:58 p.m.
§ 3402 does not require a financial difficulty
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:58 p.m.
Show me 402
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:58 p.m.
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:59 p.m.
Ok show me the criteria
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 12:59 p.m.
What criteria
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:59 p.m.
Albert said underneath is criteria which sets out when jagc can rep
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 12:59 p.m.
@AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-07 01:00 p.m.
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-07 01:00 p.m.
That would be 3403
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:00 p.m.
Right there we go
TobyToby
Albert said underneath is criteria which sets out when jagc can rep
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:00 p.m.
That's not criteria, they're independent clauses
DauuXDauuX
That's not criteria, they're independent clauses
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:01 p.m.
It covers criminal proceedings which this is
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:01 p.m.
§ 3402 gives us authority to represent people in general, § 3403 says they are statutorily eligible for advice if they cannot afford civilian counsel
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:01 p.m.
402 doesn't specify
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:01 p.m.
Therefore 403 trumps 402
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:01 p.m.
No...
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:01 p.m.
403 says you can rep him in criminal proceedings if he can't afford civilian counsel does it not
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:01 p.m.
It does
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:01 p.m.
No no no
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:01 p.m.
It does not say that
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:02 p.m.
It says I can rep him AT NO COST if he can't afford civilian counsel
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:02 p.m.
It says he is ENTITLED to that rep
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:02 p.m.
Right, but you said you don't know if he can't afford civilian counsel, and there is no statute allowing you to represent him at cost
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:03 p.m.
Only at no cost if he can't afford civilian counsel
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:03 p.m.
So in your opinion what is the purpose of § 3402
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:03 p.m.
402 is a board statute which then 403 goes into the criteria in which jagc can represent a guardsman in criminal proceedings
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:03 p.m.
Broad
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:03 p.m.
Represent a guardsman at no cost
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:04 p.m.
You keep breaking rules of statutory interpretation
DauuXDauuX
Represent a guardsman at no cost
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:04 p.m.
And what are the requirements for that
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:04 p.m.
and by your account § 3402 is redundant
DauuXDauuX
and by your account § 3402 is redundant
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:04 p.m.
I did not say that, I said it's broad and 403 goes into depth about criminal proceedings
TobyToby
And what are the requirements for that
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:04 p.m.
Answer this
TobyToby
I did not say that, I said it's broad and 403 goes into depth about criminal proceedings
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:05 p.m.
Another clause goes into depth about civil proceedings
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:05 p.m.
So you're making § 3402 redundant because both subsequent clauses "trump" it
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:06 p.m.
No, I said that 402 is broad and allows representation, but 403 goes into depth about when JAGC can represent in criminal proceedings
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:06 p.m.
No, you're omitting a clause again
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:07 p.m.
And what one is that
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:09 p.m.
§ 3402 establishes the possibility for general representation and legal advice by JAGC in proceedings.
§ 3403 establishes guardsmen's entitlement to free representation by JAGC if their financial situation makes them unable to obtain civilian counsel (i.e., we act as Public Defenders in case of financial difficulty)
§ 3404 establishes guardsmen's entitlement to free representation by JAGC and provides criteria for that free representation
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:10 p.m.
I cannot see how § 3403 would bar representation in general when § 3402 exists
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:11 p.m.
Because if §§ 3403–3404 "trump" § 3402 then § 3402 is meaningless
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:20 p.m.
§ 3403 in criminal, § 3404 in civil
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:22 p.m.
Ok, so one statute sets out the general rule that JAGC can represent a guardsman, but 403 says that you can only represent him at no cost if he can't afford civilian counsel, so I then asked you if you know that he can or can't afford civilian counsel, to which you said you didn't know. You never explicitly said that you're charging him, but your implied speech points towards you charging him. No statute allows you to represent him at cost as JAGC, and you're trying to use 402 and 404 as a loophole to represent him, whether or not that is with or without cost. You cited 404 saying guardsman are entitled to "... free representation by JAGC and provides the criteria for free representation." So since we've ruled out that you cannot represent him at cost, that leads us to 402 that tells us the criteria for which you can represent him at no cost, on the basis that he cannot afford civilian counsel, but you said you don't know if he can or can't afford civilian counsel, which means you've jumped the gun. 402 is the criteria in which you can represent him in criminal proceedings, nothing else trumps 402 in that regard. 404 only allows representation in civil proceedings. I have attached 404 below.
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:24 p.m.
So, you cannot represent him as JAGC in criminal proceedings until you know for sure that he cannot afford civilian counsel
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:24 p.m.
No, that's...
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:25 p.m.
§ 3403 says he is "entitled to representation at no cost"
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:25 p.m.
Eligible* sorry
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:25 p.m.
yes if he can't afford civilian representation and you said you dont know if he can or cant afford it
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:25 p.m.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:26 p.m.
Your colleague agrees that § 3403 would not in itself bar representation
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:26 p.m.
I'm willing to charge him if he agrees or withdraw as counsel
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:26 p.m.
I'm not trying to use a "loophole", I just interpret the statute as a whole...
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:27 p.m.
I'm not sure why you're showing that, that's completely inappropriate. Though, note how he said "if the guardsman can afford civilian counsel." You have not established if he can or can't afford it
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:27 p.m.
I do not see anything stating we cannot charge people
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:28 p.m.
Which you've just accepted as a given
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:28 p.m.
But Your Honour if I may
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:28 p.m.
What would you like me to do now about this
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:31 p.m.
Either establish his financial situation, and you can determine if you're charging him or not. Or, instead appear in your individual capacity, if JAGC policies allow for it. I agree that the statute might not bar you from charging him if he can afford civilian counsel, but you haven't established if he can afford it or not, that is my stance
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:31 p.m.
Alright, I understand
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:31 p.m.
What do you understand as "afford civilian counsel"
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:31 p.m.
Any counsel? Any good counsel?
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:32 p.m.
Any counsel that appears in a private capacity
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:32 p.m.
Alright
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:32 p.m.
I withdraw in my capacity and wish to appear as an independent practitioner of law
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:33 p.m.
Shall I file a new NOA?
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 01:33 p.m.
Please
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:37 p.m.
@Toby @Brit
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-07 01:39 p.m.
All parties have been added to the website.
✅1
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:56 p.m.
@AlbertBlackwell Are you able to add Defendant here
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 01:57 p.m.
or is that meant to happen after summons
DauuXDauuX
@AlbertBlackwell Are you able to add Defendant here
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-07 01:57 p.m.
I'll add
AlbertBlackwellAlbertBlackwell used
/add
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-07-07 01:58 p.m.
Case Modified
@AlbertBlackwell has added @alex to the case channel.
alex
alex 2025-07-07 01:58 p.m.
:🫃:
alex
alex 2025-07-07 01:58 p.m.
Hi
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-07 02:00 p.m.
@Toby Do you need me to draft summons
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 02:05 p.m.
@DauuX do you waive summons
TobyToby
@DauuX do you waive summons
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 02:06 p.m.
If the Court finds PC then we can skip the summons procedure
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 02:09 p.m.
Oh I thought i did already
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 02:10 p.m.
@Brit you're still to send the documents
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 02:10 p.m.
Jesus christ we're ahead
Brit
Brit 2025-07-07 02:10 p.m.
They're attached to the website
Brit
Brit 2025-07-07 02:10 p.m.
the CI and AOPC
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 02:10 p.m.
Send here
Brit
Brit 2025-07-07 02:10 p.m.
Alright one moment
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 02:10 p.m.
Thanks
Brit
Brit 2025-07-07 02:11 p.m.
Criminal information and affidavit of probable cause
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 02:19 p.m.
Ok probable cause found(edited)
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 05:33 p.m.
mk
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-07 07:39 p.m.
@DauuX @Toby @Brit Arraignment when
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 07:39 p.m.
whenever
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 07:39 p.m.
Over discord or in game
alex
alex 2025-07-07 07:39 p.m.
Right Now
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 07:40 p.m.
Has to be discord cause I'm not at my pc for a few weeks
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 07:40 p.m.
That works better
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-07 07:40 p.m.
Are we all able to do it now
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-07 07:41 p.m.
@Brit
alex
alex 2025-07-07 07:41 p.m.
@Brit Wakey Wakey
Brit
Brit 2025-07-07 07:41 p.m.
I don't mind now
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-07 07:41 p.m.
@Toby your worship.
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-07 07:44 p.m.
@Toby
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 07:44 p.m.
Oh I cba I'm in bed
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 07:44 p.m.
Hold on
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 07:44 p.m.
Its simple easy
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 07:44 p.m.
short
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 07:44 p.m.
etc'
alex
alex 2025-07-07 07:45 p.m.
this guy Trolling
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 07:45 p.m.
Right we'll do it now
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 07:45 p.m.
@DauuX do you want charged read or do you waive
Toby pinned a message to this channel.2026-01-18 02:54 p.m.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 07:46 p.m.
Waive
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 07:46 p.m.
Ez
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 07:46 p.m.
Ok
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 07:47 p.m.
As to Count One Gross Misconduct, how does the defendant plea
alex
alex 2025-07-07 07:47 p.m.
NOT GUILTY!!!
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 07:48 p.m.
Ok, plea of not guilty entered into the record
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-07 07:49 p.m.
Ok are we done
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 07:50 p.m.
No
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 07:50 p.m.
We will pause until the CJ finds out from CA what the position is on bail/pre-trial detainment
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 07:51 p.m.
Hell no
alex
alex 2025-07-07 07:51 p.m.
Wtf
DauuXDauuX
Hell no
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 07:52 p.m.
Hell yes
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 07:52 p.m.
Mr sir
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 07:52 p.m.
No need for detainment.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 07:53 p.m.
Hes already suspended he can do no wrong
AlbertBlackwell
AlbertBlackwell 2025-07-07 07:54 p.m.
MBI Agents are at his door, Mister DauuX Esq.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 07:54 p.m.
MBI is incompetent
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 07:54 p.m.
Which we shall show.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-07 07:54 p.m.
(slight foreshadowing)
AlbertBlackwellAlbertBlackwell
MBI Agents are at his door, Mister DauuX Esq.
alex
alex 2025-07-07 07:55 p.m.
Yeah good luck im homeless because of this
alex
alex 2025-07-07 07:55 p.m.
DOJ Cut all my pay
alex
alex 2025-07-07 07:55 p.m.
They can find me under the bridge in Alpine Forest
DauuXDauuX
(slight foreshadowing)
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 08:03 p.m.
LOL
TobyToby
LOL
alex
alex 2025-07-07 08:14 p.m.
Pretty Please can we Hurry this Up. I am Really emotional from my Administrative Leave order given by the DOJ due to this case and wish to continue with my duties when I am FREE. It is Really scary what the Terrorists are doing right now and I can't report it because im on Admin Leave.
alexalex
Pretty Please can we Hurry this Up. I am Really emotional from my Administrative Leave order given by the DOJ due to this case and wish to continue with my duties when I am FREE. I...
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 08:14 p.m.
@Requires Court-Appointed Therapist
alex
alex 2025-07-07 08:14 p.m.
I do require this
alex
alex 2025-07-07 08:14 p.m.
Can I request a ladyboy?
Toby
Toby 2025-07-07 08:15 p.m.
Ok shut up
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-08 11:20 a.m.
Can we just skip that @Toby
DauuXDauuX
Can we just skip that @Toby
Toby
Toby 2025-07-08 11:22 a.m.
I've heard back from them
Toby
Toby 2025-07-08 11:22 a.m.
We will be doing release conditions
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-08 11:22 a.m.
Okay
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-08 11:22 a.m.
when can we proceed
Toby
Toby 2025-07-08 11:45 a.m.
When I issue his release conditions
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-08 11:59 a.m.
Ok splendid
Toby
Toby 2025-07-08 01:34 p.m.
@Brit is the defendant on a administrative leave order
TobyToby
@Brit is the defendant on a administrative leave order
alex
alex 2025-07-08 01:36 p.m.
I am
alex
alex Server2025-07-08 01:36 p.m.
Brit
Brit 2025-07-08 01:38 p.m.
^
Toby
Toby 2025-07-08 02:04 p.m.
Wtf Albert ordered it
Toby
Toby 2025-07-08 02:04 p.m.
Ok he's disqualified from these proceedings
DauuXDauuX
As far as I am aware, Mr Albert has ordered the administrative leave of my client even before probable cause has been established by this Court. I am thus uncertain whether he is a...
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-08 02:04 p.m.
Yes Your Honour
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-08 05:18 p.m.
Hello.
Toby
Toby 2025-07-08 07:31 p.m.
Toby pinned a message to this channel.2026-01-18 02:54 p.m.
Toby
Toby 2025-07-08 07:32 p.m.
CC: @DauuX @Brit @alex
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-08 07:33 p.m.
who the hell is Mr Louise
TobyToby
Ok he's disqualified from these proceedings
Brit
Brit 2025-07-08 07:33 p.m.
Yes he's programe administrator of GAO it's standard procedure
DauuXDauuX
who the hell is Mr Louise
Toby
Toby 2025-07-08 07:33 p.m.
@LOUIEisKitted
Toby
Toby 2025-07-08 07:34 p.m.
my new clerk
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-08 07:34 p.m.
ok
Toby
Toby 2025-07-08 07:34 p.m.
@ryan YOU CRASHED THE BOT
Toby
Toby 2025-07-08 07:34 p.m.
LOL
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-08 07:35 p.m.
the terms r fine
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-08 07:35 p.m.
my client has said so
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-08 07:35 p.m.
@Toby can we start pretrial and discovery and all that
Toby
Toby 2025-07-08 07:36 p.m.
yeah
Toby
Toby 2025-07-08 07:36 p.m.
the bot is down i forgot
Toby
Toby 2025-07-08 07:36 p.m.
oml
Toby
Toby 2025-07-08 07:36 p.m.
ok pre-trial is open for 10 days from now
Toby
Toby 2025-07-08 07:36 p.m.
discovery is open for the next 48 hours
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-08 07:36 p.m.
I can have my discovery ready tmr
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-08 07:37 p.m.
and I dont intend to file pretrial motions
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-08 07:37 p.m.
cc @Brit
Brit
Brit 2025-07-08 07:37 p.m.
:👍:
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-08 07:38 p.m.
Pretrial: Friday, July 18, 2025 at 7:36 p.m. (7 months ago)
Discovery: Thursday, July 10, 2025 at 7:36 p.m. (7 months ago)
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-08 07:38 p.m.
@Toby made this just in case idk
Toby
Toby 2025-07-08 07:39 p.m.
thank you sir
Toby pinned a message to this channel.2026-01-18 02:54 p.m.
TobyToby
@ryan YOU CRASHED THE BOT
ryan
ryan 2025-07-08 08:19 p.m.
lmao
ryan
ryan 2025-07-08 08:19 p.m.
No shot
Brit
Brit 2025-07-09 02:30 p.m.
@Toby State would object to Exhibit A in its current form
Brit
Brit 2025-07-09 02:30 p.m.
Brit
Brit 2025-07-09 02:30 p.m.
This cannot be adequately authenticated
Brit
Brit 2025-07-09 02:32 p.m.
Discord timestamps can be changed on the website therefore State would request a full desktop screenshot which shows this to be within the app, showing who is taking the screenshot, as only they can speak to its authenticity, or if the website is used a gif which shows the page being reloaded
Brit
Brit 2025-07-09 02:32 p.m.
CC: @DauuX
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-09 02:39 p.m.
Alright. I will submit an updated discovery tomorrow then with newfound evidence
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-09 02:39 p.m.
And see if I can get a better screenshot of Exhibit A
Brit
Brit 2025-07-09 02:41 p.m.
Ideal thank you
TobyToby
LOUIEisKitted
LOUIEisKitted 2025-07-09 07:46 p.m.
Acknowledged, by the way.

(My name is also Louie but I’ll accept Louise for now)
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-10 03:36 p.m.
not the misnaming of a clerk
Brit
Brit 2025-07-10 06:41 p.m.
I'd ask the PDF version be uploaded to the website
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-10 06:45 p.m.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-10 06:45 p.m.
Before the State objects, Exhibit A shows who took the screenshot
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-10 06:46 p.m.
And Exhibit B also does through the same Discord background :🙂:
Brit
Brit 2025-07-10 06:46 p.m.
Can full desktop screenshots not be ascertained?
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-10 06:46 p.m.
Nothing requires one
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-10 06:49 p.m.
We waive further pretrial @Brit @Toby
Toby pinned a message to this channel.2026-01-18 02:54 p.m.
Toby pinned a message to this channel.2026-01-18 02:54 p.m.
DauuXDauuX
We waive further pretrial @Brit @Toby
Toby
Toby 2025-07-10 06:50 p.m.
@Brit ?
TobyToby
@Brit ?
Brit
Brit 2025-07-10 06:50 p.m.
The State needs some time to ensure it's fully prepared for trial but will make the Court aware of when we are prepared at which stage we'd be happy to move to trial
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-10 06:51 p.m.
Can we get an estimate
BritBrit
The State needs some time to ensure it's fully prepared for trial but will make the Court aware of when we are prepared at which stage we'd be happy to move to trial
Toby
Toby 2025-07-10 06:51 p.m.
Ok
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-10 06:51 p.m.
My client's on AL kind of
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-10 06:51 p.m.
and it'd be better for everyone if he could do his job
alex
alex 2025-07-10 06:52 p.m.
I'm really emotionally distressed during this due to my admin leave order as I've had no income in this horrible time of the cost of living crisis so I ask for an expedited pre trial if possible please!!
Brit
Brit 2025-07-10 06:53 p.m.
At this time I can't provide an estimate which I'm certain I can stick to, due to the inherent uncertainty that comes with trial preparation. Where I feel I'm able to provide a substantial update in the State's preparation, which indicates an estimated timeframe, I will do so for the Court and for the benefit of opposing counsel and his client.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-10 06:54 p.m.
Ok with this kind of answer we might as well not get an answer
BritBrit
At this time I can't provide an estimate which I'm certain I can stick to, due to the inherent uncertainty that comes with trial preparation. Where I feel I'm able to provide a sub...
alex
alex 2025-07-10 06:56 p.m.
Within 3 days maybe??
LOUIEisKitted
LOUIEisKitted 2025-07-12 11:23 a.m.
@alex @DauuX

Just wanted to inform you that, per the release conditions ordered by Toby on July 8, 2025, I will expect a DM from the defendant no later than July 15, 2025 at 11:59 p.m..
alex
alex 2025-07-12 11:24 a.m.
I lust for the moment I can dm you to confirm my presence, Clerk Louie
LOUIEisKitted
LOUIEisKitted 2025-07-12 11:25 a.m.
:fufu: Alright, just don't be late
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-13 04:31 p.m.
I am INFORMING this Court that I will be abroad between the 21st and 26th and unable to do stuff @Toby
✅1
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-13 04:31 p.m.
cc @Brit
alex
alex 2025-07-18 09:27 p.m.
@Brit Hi are you ready for trial now
alex
alex 2025-07-18 09:27 p.m.
even though Toby is suspended...
LOUIEisKitted
LOUIEisKitted 2025-07-19 07:26 p.m.
Will have to wait for Toby to come back for these proceedings to continue.
LOUIEisKittedLOUIEisKitted
Will have to wait for Toby to come back for these proceedings to continue.
alex
alex 2025-07-20 07:53 a.m.
Do you know when he is being unsuspended? Ive been placed on Admin Leave during this case and it is taking even longer now
LOUIEisKitted
LOUIEisKitted 2025-07-20 12:34 p.m.
However long the Supreme Court decides that he is suspended, likely until the pending matters brought before them are resolved.
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 07:48 a.m.
Hello I am now presiding on this case
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
Hello I am now presiding on this case
alex
alex 2025-07-21 07:50 a.m.
Yipee
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 07:59 a.m.
ok what’s the status with this
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
ok what’s the status with this
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:01 a.m.
pretrial should be finished, currently @DauuX is now on holiday so should be getting a substitute just waiting on him to reply to me for actually who it is(edited)
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:01 a.m.
most of the important stuff is in pins
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:01 a.m.
are you suspended from your le duties @alex
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:01 a.m.
I am on admin leave for all departments
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:01 a.m.
ijbol
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:02 a.m.
what did you plea in arraingment @alex
alexServeralex
Click to see attachment.
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:02 a.m.
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
what did you plea in arraingment @alex
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:02 a.m.
not guilty
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:02 a.m.
interesting
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:02 a.m.
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:02 a.m.
who is voidness
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
who is voidness
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:03 a.m.
A troubled young Man
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:03 a.m.
interesting
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:03 a.m.
is the jagc representing you
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:03 a.m.
No, dauux is doing it in his individual capacity
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:03 a.m.
as toby ruled he couldn't
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:03 a.m.
as jagc
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:03 a.m.
ok
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:04 a.m.
they had like an hour argument about it if u scroll up a bit
BritBrit
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:05 a.m.
the discovery is found invalid. exhibit a is not avialble.
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:05 a.m.
i dont know what it was either
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:06 a.m.
what is your rank in all departments @alex
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ used
/whois discord
RoVer
RoVer Bot2025-07-21 08:06 a.m.
nukhz_#0
Roblox username
Nukhz
Roblox display name
alex
Roblox user ID
107425411
Is banned?
No
Join date
2/2/2016
Open Roblox profile
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:06 a.m.
ok youre in 200 groups so im not checking
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:06 a.m.
please state for the record
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
what is your rank in all departments @alex
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:06 a.m.
Trooper First Class in MSP
Captain in MNG
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:07 a.m.
do you work in the division of public safety
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
do you work in the division of public safety
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:07 a.m.
I used to, I was at-willed
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:07 a.m.
are you currently serving in mng
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:07 a.m.
as an active reserve?
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:07 a.m.
I am the Executive Officer for military intelligence
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:07 a.m.
so is the administrative leave order applied there
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:07 a.m.
It is
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:07 a.m.
And MSP
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:08 a.m.
ok
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:08 a.m.
I have been on it since the 5th
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:08 a.m.
what was your role in dps
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:08 a.m.
acting director at the time of discharge
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:08 a.m.
oh yes you made that announcement didnt you
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:08 a.m.
against this court
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:08 a.m.
interesting
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:08 a.m.
I just got told to write it
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:08 a.m.
the administrative order for leave shall remain
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:08 a.m.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
the administrative order for leave shall remain
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:09 a.m.
:😿:
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:09 a.m.
when is your attorney coming back
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
when is your attorney coming back
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:10 a.m.
should be the 26th, but might be able to get a co-counsel before then
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:10 a.m.
just waiting on him to dm me back
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:10 a.m.
@Brit is the state willing to voluntarily lift the administrative order for leave on mr nukhz seeing as he has no high command ability
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:11 a.m.
and is being indicted based on conduct on such role
alexalex
should be the 26th, but might be able to get a co-counsel before then
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:11 a.m.
provide co counsel then
alexalex
I just got told to write it
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:11 a.m.
by who
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
by who
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:12 a.m.
the actual director
alexalex
the actual director
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:12 a.m.
who
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:12 a.m.
this is irrelevant to the case im just curious
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:12 a.m.
t_ikkyism
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:12 a.m.
ok
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:12 a.m.
he had his contempt charge dropped afterwards due to the announcement i believe(edited)
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:13 a.m.
i will see what the state has to say in re restoring your law enforcement powers
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:13 a.m.
and make a judgment
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:13 a.m.
lovely thank you
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:13 a.m.
have you gained any records since being placed on administrative leave
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
have you gained any records since being placed on administrative leave
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:13 a.m.
I have not
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:13 a.m.
@LOUIEisKitted was assigned as my bail man
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:13 a.m.
ok do you have any pending internal affairs investigations
TobyToby
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:13 a.m.
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
ok do you have any pending internal affairs investigations
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:13 a.m.
I do not
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:14 a.m.
you are to produce any disciplinary records you have to this court within 24 hours
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
you are to produce any disciplinary records you have to this court within 24 hours
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:15 a.m.
For DPS as well?
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:15 a.m.
Or just my current ones
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:15 a.m.
all
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:15 a.m.
any historic disciplinaries
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:16 a.m.
I believe that should be all
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:16 a.m.
actually
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:17 a.m.
@alex
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:17 a.m.
Hi
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
you are to produce any disciplinary records you have to this court within 24 hours
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:17 a.m.
please speak to your attorney in re this
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:17 a.m.
you have the right to not self incriminate.
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:17 a.m.
Ok Lovely
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:17 a.m.
however it may support your requests to unsuspend you
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:18 a.m.
it is up to your attorney
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:18 a.m.
Ok will do asap.
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:19 a.m.
Can I also argue that my admin leave order is a threat to state security due to my role as an intelligence officer for the national guard I have been unable to fulfil my duties and advise against any possible threats from terrorists or other organised groups
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:20 a.m.
that would be outlandish. i have just observed good behaviour and a good parole record
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:20 a.m.
that is the basis
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:20 a.m.
i am waiting for @Brit 's reply
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:20 a.m.
alright
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:21 a.m.
Also as a note I was temporarily lifted from my admin leave order for MNG due to my role in the war effort to provide intelligence but was recently re-activated per an agreement between MNG Command Group and the DOJ
alexalex
Also as a note I was temporarily lifted from my admin leave order for MNG due to my role in the war effort to provide intelligence but was recently re-activated per an agreement be...
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:22 a.m.
can isee the agreement
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:22 a.m.
or is it confidential document
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:22 a.m.
I don't have access to it at all
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:22 a.m.
I have the original one
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:22 a.m.
is it a classified document
alexalex
Click to see attachment.
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:22 a.m.
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:22 a.m.
this is the original AL order
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:23 a.m.
This is what was told to me recently when I was re-placed on AL for mng by ACID command
https://prnt.sc/lnLm-_nRcQ2A
Captured with Lightshot
alexalex
Click to see attachment.
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:23 a.m.
this order doesnt place you under administrative leave in msp
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:23 a.m.
unless theres a further order
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
this order doesnt place you under administrative leave in msp
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:23 a.m.
MSP IA were forwarded it and told to do it
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:23 a.m.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:24 a.m.
Thats the order that MSP provided to me when I asked
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:24 a.m.
Im guessing its for this part
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:24 a.m.
interesting
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:24 a.m.
ok
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:24 a.m.
Also another note, the DOJ ordering the admin leave was a clerk for judge toby but was removed from the case for that COI
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:24 a.m.
Captured with Lightshot
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:24 a.m.
doesnt matter much
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:25 a.m.
i am not in tiddles to discuss orders made by an incompetent judge
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:25 a.m.
so anything he said does not matter from now on
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:25 a.m.
yeah just thought i'd say incase Idrk much about american court shit
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:26 a.m.
your conditions of bail are revoked
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:27 a.m.
it will be reinstated if the state decides to not contest your unsuspension
alex
alex 2025-07-21 08:27 a.m.
:😺:
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:27 a.m.
anyways we need to set a trial date so @DauuX when you are back let me know
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:28 a.m.
state needs to re-submit its discovery
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 08:28 a.m.
its granted 48hrs to do so
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
anyways we need to set a trial date so @DauuX when you are back let me know
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-21 10:39 a.m.
26th
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-21 10:41 a.m.
I’ve briefed a co-counsel on the case and he can take over if necessary
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-21 10:42 a.m.
But I’d rather handle it once I’m back
DauuXDauuX
I’ve briefed a co-counsel on the case and he can take over if necessary
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-21 10:43 a.m.
@steva
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
so anything he said does not matter from now on
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 12:58 p.m.
For the record a fresh order was issued by myself
BritBrit
For the record a fresh order was issued by myself
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 12:58 p.m.
does the state still want the order to continue
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 12:58 p.m.
Yes
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 12:58 p.m.
seeing as mr nukhz is a law abiding citizen
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 12:58 p.m.
why
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 12:58 p.m.
The AL order yes
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 12:58 p.m.
and why
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 12:59 p.m.
i understand its statutory authority but it seems as if its a abuse of discretion
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 12:59 p.m.
Well firstly it's the Attorney General's statutory perrogative to place people on AL during criminal proceedings and secondly considering this matter is regarding admin abuse and he has a high position of authority within those groups
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 12:59 p.m.
mr nukhz does not pose a threat to civilians by allegedly free-ranking someone
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 12:59 p.m.
he has no such priviledges
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 12:59 p.m.
The State believes it'd be a risk to allow him to maintian those positions durign these proceedings
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 01:00 p.m.
Due to his positions he maintians a high level of priviliges
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 01:00 p.m.
or would rather
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:00 p.m.
he is cpt in mng (which the AL order has been lifted) and a trooper first class in msp
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:00 p.m.
his positions arent substansive
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 01:00 p.m.
The AL order hasn't been lifted
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 01:00 p.m.
it was temporarily suspended during the war then put back
alexalex
This is what was told to me recently when I was re-placed on AL for mng by ACID command https://prnt.sc/lnLm-_nRcQ2A
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:00 p.m.
e
BritBrit
it was temporarily suspended during the war then put back
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:01 p.m.
so why would the state relieve a criminal for a temporary period and re-suspend him
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:01 p.m.
it makes no sense
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 01:01 p.m.
We were pressured by the Governor to do so
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:01 p.m.
well, yes the governor is the head of the executive
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:01 p.m.
i dont see a compelling reason to keep the defendant on administrative leave
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 01:01 p.m.
My point is it wasn't what the State wanted to do but rather what it was made to do
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:02 p.m.
if there are internal disputes in the executive branch, that is none of this courts business
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:02 p.m.
i just require an objective reasonable reason on why hes still on AL
BritBrit
For the record a fresh order was issued by myself
alex
alex 2025-07-21 01:02 p.m.
Can I have a copy of this order btw
alex
alex 2025-07-21 01:02 p.m.
I did not get given one
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 01:02 p.m.
Yeah I assumed one was forwaded
alex
alex 2025-07-21 01:02 p.m.
acid didnt tell me shit Ngl
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:03 p.m.
is the state willing to lift its order
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 01:03 p.m.
I'll put it here for the court
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
is the state willing to lift its order
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 01:03 p.m.
The State maintians its position that it is within the interest of public safety and the departments Defendant is in to keep them on administrative leave
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 01:03 p.m.
Especially considering his position within MNG
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 01:04 p.m.
maintains*
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:04 p.m.
the State unsuspended him during the war though so i dont find that compelling
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:04 p.m.
if anything he should be kept suspended
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 01:04 p.m.
The State's unsuspension was illogical and not one made by myself nor one I support
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:05 p.m.
how about if we allow the defendant to be an trooper @Brit
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:05 p.m.
i dont want to encroach on the stautory authority of the state but the AL order is clearly illogical in itself
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
how about if we allow the defendant to be an trooper @Brit
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 01:07 p.m.
I'll have to confer with my colleagues so we can look further into this and assess the situation
BritBrit
I'll have to confer with my colleagues so we can look further into this and assess the situation
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:07 p.m.
i will give you 24 hours to do so
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 01:07 p.m.
Understood My Lord
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:07 p.m.
after that we must discuss trial
BritBrit
Understood My Lord
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:07 p.m.
i only say this because the criminal information doesnt relate to him being a trooper
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:07 p.m.
i hope you will understand
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:07 p.m.
i want to be fair to both sides
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:08 p.m.
and he's been suspended for a month already so its unethical to keep him gameless
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:08 p.m.
for a trial that will be long anyway
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 01:08 p.m.
Of course, we've had other issues with Defendant in the past which we've referred to JAGC that weren't pursued to my knowledge
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 01:08 p.m.
However, I'll need to review the facts again as they pertian to this matter
Brit
Brit 2025-07-21 01:08 p.m.
pertain*
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:09 p.m.
ok
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-21 01:10 p.m.
for the record i have revoked bail conditions because it isnt needed
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ used
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clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-07-21 01:23 p.m.
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Tuesday, July 22, 2025 at 1:23 p.m. (6 months ago)
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
you are to produce any disciplinary records you have to this court within 24 hours
alex
alex 2025-07-22 02:36 a.m.
Hi I have spoken to my counsel and decline to provide this under 5th amendment
alexalex
Hi I have spoken to my counsel and decline to provide this under 5th amendment
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 05:52 a.m.
ok
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
i will give you 24 hours to do so
alex
alex 2025-07-22 01:23 p.m.
Hello I believe the Time is Up
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:24 p.m.
lol
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:24 p.m.
Lol you Minute ago @Brit
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:24 p.m.
Do u have response
alex
alex 2025-07-22 01:25 p.m.
Dude I was counting down I was so Excited
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
any historic disciplinaries
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 01:27 p.m.
I'll subpoena them if the court would like them
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
Lol you Minute ago @Brit
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 01:28 p.m.
MNG we are adamant that he remains on leave
BritBrit
MNG we are adamant that he remains on leave
alex
alex 2025-07-22 01:28 p.m.
Why
alex
alex 2025-07-22 01:28 p.m.
I am a Very useful man in Mng
alexalex
I am a Very useful man in Mng
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 01:29 p.m.
You being in a position of authority is a risk to security
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 01:29 p.m.
Considering the action you are here for
BritBrit
You being in a position of authority is a risk to security
alex
alex 2025-07-22 01:29 p.m.
My position of authority is to protect state security which I do very Well
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 01:29 p.m.
Listen I wouldn't like to say anything else directly to you without your counsel present
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 01:31 p.m.
In regard to MSP @krm we'd likely be willing to lift the order but would like to gather some additional details first
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 01:31 p.m.
Regarding any disciplinary history etc
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:31 p.m.
I dont mind him being suspended in MNG because he is a high command role
alex
alex 2025-07-22 01:31 p.m.
I have no disciplinary history in msp
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:32 p.m.
But trooper makes no sense
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:32 p.m.
I need you to make a decision today as I already gave you 24 hours @Brit
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
I dont mind him being suspended in MNG because he is a high command role
alex
alex 2025-07-22 01:32 p.m.
im not even a senior officer btw
alex
alex 2025-07-22 01:32 p.m.
Not really high command
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:32 p.m.
Mama uses the common law intepretation of Captain that is a hefty role
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
I need you to make a decision today as I already gave you 24 hours @Brit
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 01:32 p.m.
If you're ordering it reversed then I'd ask for a ruling in writing
BritBrit
If you're ordering it reversed then I'd ask for a ruling in writing
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:33 p.m.
Are you not doing it
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
Are you not doing it
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 01:33 p.m.
If you allow me to gather the additional information I need
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:33 p.m.
He says he has no disciplinary history
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 01:33 p.m.
Okay I'm not inclined to trust him
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:33 p.m.
I will allow it if he and his counsel allow it
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:34 p.m.
@alex
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:34 p.m.
@DauuX
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
I will allow it if he and his counsel allow it
alex
alex 2025-07-22 01:34 p.m.
can you add my co-counsel @steva
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:34 p.m.
He will have to file a notice like everyone else
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:34 p.m.
Once he has he will added
alex
alex 2025-07-22 01:34 p.m.
Balls
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:35 p.m.
Anyways I need this to be resolved today as this is irrelevant to the trial
BritBrit
Okay I'm not inclined to trust him
alex
alex 2025-07-22 01:35 p.m.
what are you looking for
alex
alex 2025-07-22 01:36 p.m.
msp disciplinary?
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 01:36 p.m.
Yes but I can get them myself
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 01:36 p.m.
From MSP
alex
alex 2025-07-22 01:36 p.m.
Captured with Lightshot
Captured with Lightshot
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:36 p.m.
I would recommend you speak to your counsel before disclosing anything
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:37 p.m.
Especially on the record
alex
alex 2025-07-22 01:37 p.m.
he is filing a noa rn
alex
alex 2025-07-22 01:39 p.m.
@krm Am I able to get Brigadier @dan added to testify on how needed I am in MNG at the moment in my role
alex
alex 2025-07-22 01:39 p.m.
And how I am not in a high command position
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:39 p.m.
No
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:39 p.m.
I am doing you a favour by advocating for your return of Trooper
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:40 p.m.
If you are needed in MNG you need to make a separate agreement with DOJ and or Governor
UserUser
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alex
alex 2025-07-22 01:43 p.m.
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 01:43 p.m.
Hi
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ used
/add
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-07-22 01:43 p.m.
Case Modified
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shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ used
/add
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-07-22 01:43 p.m.
Case Modified
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shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
Hi
steva
steva 2025-07-22 01:44 p.m.
Hello your honor :👋:
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:15 p.m.
@krm In what capacity is the Governor appearing?
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 02:15 p.m.
Clerk of my court @Brit
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 02:16 p.m.
@orange
alex
alex 2025-07-22 02:16 p.m.
:🥸:
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
Clerk of my court @Brit
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:16 p.m.
And you don't see the issue with that?
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:16 p.m.
Having the head of the executive appear in proceedings in which an executive agency is present
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:16 p.m.
It'd be like having the AG appear as your Clerk
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:19 p.m.
It makes me question the impartiality of the judiciary to have executive involvement in court proceedings
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:19 p.m.
in the position of a court official
BritBrit
Having the head of the executive appear in proceedings in which an executive agency is present
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 02:21 p.m.
You are the executive too
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 02:21 p.m.
Mr Orangebear is a sternographer
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
You are the executive too
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:21 p.m.
I am a party in the proceedings
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 02:21 p.m.
He has no substantive position here
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:21 p.m.
You've essentially brought my boss in here to what I can only assume is to intimidate me
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 02:21 p.m.
?
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 02:21 p.m.
He can see the chat anyway
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 02:21 p.m.
He is sternographer
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:21 p.m.
He has no place in these proceedings and it's an attack on the impartiality of the judiciary for you to add him
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 02:21 p.m.
I can remov ehim.
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 02:22 p.m.
But he will still be sternographing
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:22 p.m.
I think that'd be best to uphold judicial impartiality
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 02:22 p.m.
Ok have you contacted MSp
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:23 p.m.
I'm assessing the scenario, I don't personally believe the Court even has the authority to order me to take Nukhz, contact will be made shortly
alex
alex 2025-07-22 02:23 p.m.
take me??
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:23 p.m.
off al
alex
alex 2025-07-22 02:23 p.m.
Dude I dont swing that way
alex
alex 2025-07-22 02:23 p.m.
Oh
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:23 p.m.
Yeah I'm not a gay either
BritBrit
I'm assessing the scenario, I don't personally believe the Court even has the authority to order me to take Nukhz, contact will be made shortly
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 02:24 p.m.
How long does that take
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:24 p.m.
How longs a piece of string
alex
alex 2025-07-22 02:24 p.m.
10 cm
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 02:24 p.m.
All you have to do is message his superior
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 02:24 p.m.
Which I am sure Mr Nukhz would facilitate
alex
alex 2025-07-22 02:24 p.m.
My superior is Blackielight142
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 02:24 p.m.
1 day is sufficent
alexalex
My superior is Blackielight142
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:24 p.m.
What rank is he
alex
alex 2025-07-22 02:25 p.m.
captain
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:25 p.m.
I'll be contacting the IA head not his direct superior
alex
alex 2025-07-22 02:25 p.m.
head of admin buraeu
alex
alex 2025-07-22 02:25 p.m.
oh
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:25 p.m.
I don't need another sob story like I received from Brigadier General spookdan
alex
alex 2025-07-22 02:25 p.m.
He is above the ia head
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 02:25 p.m.
Ok please contact Ia
alex
alex 2025-07-22 02:25 p.m.
Dude that was Not a sob story
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 02:25 p.m.
Can you do so now @Brit
alex
alex 2025-07-22 02:25 p.m.
That was a Very nice formulated Message on how Lovely and Useful I am
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:25 p.m.
You're right it was a sob book
alex
alex 2025-07-22 02:25 p.m.
Thats evil
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
Can you do so now @Brit
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:25 p.m.
Yes my Lord
alex
alex 2025-07-22 02:25 p.m.
Evil has no Place in the courtroom.
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:25 p.m.
I can
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 02:26 p.m.
If you cannot I will just ask him to testify here
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:35 p.m.
MSP IA command has been contacted
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
But he will still be sternographing
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:35 p.m.
Can he be removed them
Brit
Brit 2025-07-22 02:35 p.m.
then*
orange
orange 2025-07-22 02:41 p.m.
Here to Clark.
orange
orange 2025-07-22 02:41 p.m.
Clerk.
orange
orange 2025-07-22 03:02 p.m.
@krm Honorable
orange
orange 2025-07-22 03:02 p.m.
Do you need reporter of decision too
orange
orange 2025-07-22 03:02 p.m.
I can Do That
orange
orange 2025-07-22 03:02 p.m.
@cabot Please touch.
orange
orange 2025-07-22 03:02 p.m.
Vouch.
Chancellor Cabot ᴘᴄ
Chancellor Cabot ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 05:32 p.m.
Hello
Chancellor Cabot ᴘᴄ
Chancellor Cabot ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 05:32 p.m.
Please shut the hell up
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-22 05:46 p.m.
True
alex
alex 2025-07-22 05:46 p.m.
:🫃:
alex
alex 2025-07-23 10:31 a.m.
@krm Hi mate the state have failed to re-submit discovery by ur deadline of 48 hours....(edited)
Brit
Brit 2025-07-23 11:44 a.m.
We've already submitted discovery to the court and it should be on the website unless the previous court didn't do its job
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
state needs to re-submit its discovery
Brit
Brit 2025-07-23 11:45 a.m.
I wasn't tagged for this how can due notice be expected
BritBrit
Brit
Brit 2025-07-23 11:45 a.m.
It's already here in the channel
alex
alex 2025-07-23 11:56 a.m.
best get on re-entering it then(edited)
Brit
Brit 2025-07-23 12:10 p.m.
I've just made the court aware of it, that can be classed as re-entry
BritBrit
It's already here in the channel
Brit
Brit 2025-07-23 12:10 p.m.
@krm
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-23 04:03 p.m.
I cant see exhibit A @Brit
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-23 04:04 p.m.
On the PDF version either
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-23 04:04 p.m.
I asked for it to be re-entered based on that premise
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
I asked for it to be re-entered based on that premise
Brit
Brit 2025-07-23 04:04 p.m.
I saved a copy
Brit
Brit 2025-07-23 04:04 p.m.
One moment
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-23 04:04 p.m.
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-23 04:04 p.m.
Also I did tag you
Brit
Brit 2025-07-23 04:05 p.m.
I didn't get tagged
Brit
Brit 2025-07-23 04:05 p.m.
you must have pressed don't tag
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-23 04:05 p.m.
I pressed tag, it probably got missed
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
I pressed tag, it probably got missed
Brit
Brit 2025-07-23 04:06 p.m.
This is Exhibit A
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-23 04:06 p.m.
Ok
Brit
Brit 2025-07-23 04:06 p.m.
The rest should wokr
Brit
Brit 2025-07-23 04:06 p.m.
work*
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-23 04:06 p.m.
Is there any update as to Defendant's status in State Police
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
Is there any update as to Defendant's status in State Police
Brit
Brit 2025-07-23 04:06 p.m.
I've looked at his records
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-23 04:06 p.m.
If there are no pretrial motions we will be scheduling for trial

@Brit @DauuX
Brit
Brit 2025-07-23 04:06 p.m.
and he isn't a risk based on those
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-23 04:07 p.m.
Excellent, are you lifting the administrative leave petraining to MSP?
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
If there are no pretrial motions we will be scheduling for trial @Brit @DauuX
Brit
Brit 2025-07-23 04:07 p.m.
I know DauuX is on holiday and I'm away next week on a law ithing
DauuXDauuX
and I dont intend to file pretrial motions
alex
alex 2025-07-23 04:07 p.m.
alex
alex 2025-07-23 04:07 p.m.
for defence ^
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
Excellent, are you lifting the administrative leave petraining to MSP?
Brit
Brit 2025-07-23 04:07 p.m.
I'll draft it up just in the middle of smthn rn
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-23 04:07 p.m.
Excellent
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-23 04:07 p.m.
Has there been an attempt at a plea agreement(edited)
alex
alex 2025-07-23 04:08 p.m.
I entered my plea of not guilty and I stick to it
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-23 04:08 p.m.
I know he plead not guilty but yes
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-23 04:10 p.m.
Upon the lifting of the administrative order which previously barred the Defendant from serving as a Trooper, it is HEREBY ORDERED that the Defendant, shall check in with this Court no less than once every seven (7) days. At each check-in, the Defendant shall produce a current and complete record of any criminal charges, convictions, or pending investigations, as well as any disciplinary action taken or initiated against them. These bail conditions shall remain in effect until the disposition of case. Riding Justice shah_khaled (23/07/2025).

@alex @DauuX @Brit
alex
alex 2025-07-23 04:12 p.m.
lovely
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
Has there been an attempt at a plea agreement(edited)
Brit
Brit 2025-07-23 04:13 p.m.
State isn't willing to entertain a DPA
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-07-23 04:15 p.m.
Ok
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-26 05:54 p.m.
hello I am home @krm
alex
alex 2025-07-28 05:55 p.m.
:🧔‍♀️:
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-31 06:00 p.m.
hello speedy trial :☎️: @krm @Brit
alex
alex 2025-07-31 06:23 p.m.
hello speedy trial :☎️: @krm @Brit
Brit
Brit 2025-07-31 06:24 p.m.
@DauuX Can you tell your client to stop talking to me
Brit
Brit 2025-07-31 06:24 p.m.
They have a lawyer for a reason
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-31 06:24 p.m.
@alex Can you stop hitting on him
alex
alex 2025-07-31 06:25 p.m.
Sorry I just find him super attractive
DauuX
DauuX 2025-07-31 06:25 p.m.
I wouldn't
Brit
Brit 2025-07-31 06:26 p.m.
Listen I'm not a gay
Brit
Brit 2025-07-31 06:26 p.m.
Let's get that on the record
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-04 11:41 a.m.
@Kezzera @Xerxy Can we ask for reassignment
UserUser
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DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-04 11:42 a.m.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-04 11:42 a.m.
In light of this
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-04 11:42 a.m.
My client is still on AL in MNG and we'd like to resolve this as quickly as possible
alex
alex 2025-08-04 11:45 a.m.
Free nukhz :✊:
DauuXDauuX
@Kezzera @Xerxy Can we ask for reassignment
Xerxy
Xerxy 2025-08-04 11:47 a.m.
Ping me in 15 minutes
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-04 11:50 a.m.
ok
XerxyXerxy
Ping me in 15 minutes
alex
alex 2025-08-04 12:00 p.m.
Hi
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-04 12:33 p.m.
@Xerxy I am pinging you 46 minutes later
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-04 02:01 p.m.
@Xerxy .
alex
alex 2025-08-04 03:48 p.m.
@Xerxy :☹️:
alexalex
@Xerxy :☹️:
Xerxy
Xerxy 2025-08-04 03:49 p.m.
I on in 30 minutes
Xerxy
Xerxy 2025-08-04 03:49 p.m.
I took a small nap
XerxyXerxy
I on in 30 minutes
alex
alex 2025-08-04 05:12 p.m.
:😺:
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-04 05:46 p.m.
@Xerxy
alex
alex 2025-08-04 05:47 p.m.
@Xerxy
Xerxy
Xerxy 2025-08-04 06:16 p.m.
Reassigned to @rummy
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-04 06:17 p.m.
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rummyrummy used
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clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-04 06:57 p.m.
Case Modified
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shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-08-04 07:35 p.m.
Who reassigned this
rummyrummy used
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clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-04 07:35 p.m.
Case Modified
@rummy has added @alex to the case channel.
XerxyXerxy
Reassigned to @rummy
rummy
rummy 2025-08-04 07:35 p.m.
@krm
rummyrummy
@krm
Xerxy
Xerxy 2025-08-04 07:35 p.m.
Your loa?
Xerxy
Xerxy 2025-08-04 07:35 p.m.
Is there a issue
Xerxy
Xerxy 2025-08-04 07:35 p.m.
You can dm me if there is
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
Who reassigned this
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-04 07:53 p.m.
if you're going on leave then that seems reasonable
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-08-04 07:53 p.m.
Notice would be nice
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-05 03:31 p.m.
@rummy @Brit Can we begin scheduling
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-05 04:07 p.m.
brit needs to be added cc @Xerxy
XerxyXerxy used
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clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-05 04:11 p.m.
Case Modified
@Xerxy has added @Brit to the case channel.
DauuXDauuX
@rummy @Brit Can we begin scheduling
Brit
Brit 2025-08-05 04:23 p.m.
:👍:
rummy
rummy 2025-08-05 04:55 p.m.
oral noa's please so I can keep track of who's who @Brit @DauuX
rummy
rummy 2025-08-05 04:55 p.m.
@steva
Brit
Brit 2025-08-05 04:56 p.m.
EffortlessBrit for the State
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-05 05:03 p.m.
DauuX for Defendant
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-05 05:04 p.m.
Steva as co-counsel for Defendant, but no longer required (was added to take care in my absence)
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-06 05:12 p.m.
@rummy
alex
alex 2025-08-07 07:14 a.m.
@rummy Can we get this trial scheduled ASAP, all the pretrial stuff is done
Brit
Brit 2025-08-08 10:19 a.m.
I am planning to go out of country on August 18th for a week so would appreciate if we could get scheduling sorted
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-08 02:24 p.m.
@rummy
alex
alex 2025-08-08 04:16 p.m.
@rummy:🙏:
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 05:57 p.m.
Dale
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 05:57 p.m.
It seems plea has already been entered, and arraignment has succesfully gone through
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:00 p.m.
I actually don't see anything, however without objections I'll declare a pr bond. as such..

This Court finds that the defendant is not a danger to the community and is likely to appear for all scheduled court proceedings, therefore, the Court orders that the defendant @alex be released on personal recognizance.

- The defendant shall appear for all scheduled court dates.

- The defendant shall not commit any new criminal offenses.

- The defendant shall maintain contact with their attorney.

Failure to comply with these conditions or failure to appear will result in the immediate issuance of a warrant for your arrest and forfeiture of this bond @alex
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:01 p.m.
Now for actual trial scheduling
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:01 p.m.
@Brit @DauuX Your timezones please?
rummyrummy
@Brit @DauuX Your timezones please?
Brit
Brit 2025-08-08 06:02 p.m.
I'm UTC +1, Dauux is UTC + 2
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:03 p.m.
ah shmucks this wont work for in person then
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:03 p.m.
in game *
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:03 p.m.
let me make sure all pre trial matters have been handled, and I'll put down a async cal.
rummyrummy
let me make sure all pre trial matters have been handled, and I'll put down a async cal.
Brit
Brit 2025-08-08 06:04 p.m.
All pre-trial matters were settled by the last judge
Brit
Brit 2025-08-08 06:04 p.m.
it's just trial scheduling now
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:04 p.m.
Awesome
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:04 p.m.
We're still missing summon drafts for witnesses
rummyrummy
We're still missing summon drafts for witnesses
Brit
Brit 2025-08-08 06:04 p.m.
Are you wanting Counsel to do them
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:05 p.m.
Yes I'll be asking you both draft summons for your respective witnesses
rummyrummy
Yes I'll be asking you both draft summons for your respective witnesses
Brit
Brit 2025-08-08 06:05 p.m.
Could use the @clerkFlow bot no?
rummyrummy
We're still missing summon drafts for witnesses
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-08 06:05 p.m.
I’ve spoken to all my witnesses and they all want to show up, do we need those?
DauuXDauuX
I’ve spoken to all my witnesses and they all want to show up, do we need those?
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:05 p.m.
Yes
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:05 p.m.
Here's how I'm going to schedule this
Brit
Brit 2025-08-08 06:05 p.m.
Do you have a template of what you'd included
Brit
Brit 2025-08-08 06:06 p.m.
you'd like*
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:07 p.m.
Once we've cleared through a clear schedule, I want case chat to become a clean record
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:07 p.m.
I've actually thought about it, and since I'm taking over this matter from another Judge, I'll waive summons as long as you don't need your witnesses compelled here, it will be your responsibility to make sure they make it trial
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:08 p.m.
The structure of this async is going to be as follows:
Brit
Brit 2025-08-08 06:08 p.m.
Can't you just summon them using the bot
BritBrit
Can't you just summon them using the bot
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:08 p.m.
The bot hasn't worked for me a few times, but yes we can start that way
rummyrummy
The bot hasn't worked for me a few times, but yes we can start that way
Brit
Brit 2025-08-08 06:08 p.m.
Ideal thank you
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:08 p.m.
As I was saying...
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:09 p.m.
Given you are both here, and without objection, in an hour I will open the floor to opening statements for the next 12 hours.

The prosecution will present it's open statement followed by the defense.
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:10 p.m.
Once both opening statements are presented I'll open the floor to the prosecution for twenty four hours to present their case
rummyrummy
Given you are both here, and without objection, in an hour I will open the floor to opening statements for the next 12 hours. The prosecution will present it's open statement foll...
Brit
Brit 2025-08-08 06:10 p.m.
Your Honour respectfully I'm about to go to bed
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:10 p.m.
That's fine we can do this tmmrw
Brit
Brit 2025-08-08 06:10 p.m.
and I can't guarantee I'll be on Discord in 12 hours
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:10 p.m.
As I was saying...
rummyrummy
Given you are both here, and without objection, in an hour I will open the floor to opening statements for the next 12 hours. The prosecution will present it's open statement foll...
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:10 p.m.
amended to tmmrw
Brit
Brit 2025-08-08 06:10 p.m.
Thank you Your Honour
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:11 p.m.
The prosecution will of course have to complete the presentation of its case, however please plan with @DauuX as you will not be able to move onto the next witness should he need to cross examine
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:12 p.m.
Then we'll flip it over for the Defense to make its case for twenty four hours same rules
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:12 p.m.
Then we will have the floor open for rebuttals over 24 hours
Brit
Brit 2025-08-08 06:12 p.m.
Will the timer be paused during cross
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:12 p.m.
No
Brit
Brit 2025-08-08 06:12 p.m.
So me getting my case done is reliant on the defence?
Brit
Brit 2025-08-08 06:12 p.m.
and vice-versa
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:12 p.m.
If I detect bad faith I'll sanction
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:12 p.m.
If you need more time, let me know
Brit
Brit 2025-08-08 06:12 p.m.
Alright your Honour
Brit
Brit 2025-08-08 06:12 p.m.
Will just see how it goes
rummyrummy
Then we will have the floor open for rebuttals over 24 hours
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:13 p.m.
and after closing statements
rummy
rummy 2025-08-08 06:13 p.m.
ill ping you both with relevant timer notifs
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-08 06:30 p.m.
Just letting you both know that I might be busy on Sunday (1 pm to around 5 pm BST), as I might be visiting a relative
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-08 06:30 p.m.
other than that I'm available
rummy
rummy 2025-08-09 08:20 a.m.
Opening statements:

floor open, please go in your respect orders @Brit @DauuX
DauuXDauuX
Just letting you both know that I might be busy on Sunday (1 pm to around 5 pm BST), as I might be visiting a relative
Brit
Brit 2025-08-09 10:30 a.m.
I'm busy all of Sunday, (12:00 till around 19:00 BST) due to work
Brit
Brit 2025-08-09 12:17 p.m.
Your Honour the facts of this case are very clear,

On June 11th 2025 the Defendant in this matter, Nukhz, in his capacity as the Assistant Director of the Division of Public safety, promoted Voidness to the rank of Special Agent within the Division of Public safety group. In doing so the defendant granted Voidness peace officer status, as prescribed by 3 M.S.C. 1 § 4804(a).

In accordance with 4 M.S.C. 5 § 1601 peace officers are required to have, among other things, residency and a certification from a recognised law enforcement institute, Voidness had neither of these at the time of being elevated to peace officer status. The defendant's decision to grant Voidness peace officer status despite them not meeting the lawful requirements is an intentional, incorrect, abuse of their position and is proscribed as gross misconduct by 4 M.S.C. 5 § 2601(b).

We will prove through our witnesses and evidence submitted to this Court beyond reasonable doubt that the defendant committed gross misconduct.
Brit
Brit 2025-08-09 12:17 p.m.
State yields
Brit
Brit 2025-08-09 12:17 p.m.
CC: @rummy
rummy
rummy 2025-08-09 12:20 p.m.
@DauuX
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-09 12:40 p.m.
The State paints a very straightforward, clear-cut case for this Court to consider. It alleges that my client has abused his authority and without due concern, or indeed, with intent, granted peace officer status to a person who could not have received it. But as with most seemingly obvious things, the truth lies deeper; it requires one to carefully analyse the situation. The State has--either because of the investigator's incompetence or due to their own negligence and recklessness--misconstrued the facts of this case. They have not done their duty and have completely failed to grasp the reality of this situation. We intend to prove, beyond doubt, that my client is innocent of the charges alleged against him.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-09 12:40 p.m.
I yield @rummy
Brit
Brit 2025-08-09 12:59 p.m.
@rummy Are you wanting me to start? If so can we start summoning witnesses etc
BritBrit
@rummy Are you wanting me to start? If so can we start summoning witnesses etc
rummy
rummy 2025-08-09 01:05 p.m.
Would you like to start today or Monday?
rummyrummy
Would you like to start today or Monday?
Brit
Brit 2025-08-09 01:06 p.m.
Monday would probably work best as I'm not available tomorrow
BritBrit
Monday would probably work best as I'm not available tomorrow
rummy
rummy 2025-08-09 01:09 p.m.
Monday it is then, I’ll start summoning witnesses today
Brit
Brit 2025-08-09 01:09 p.m.
That should work well thank you Your Honour
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 08:41 a.m.
@rummy Will pick this up later today, as witnesses still need summoning and I didn't get to bed till 4 am as I was at that hearing last night
BritBrit
@rummy Will pick this up later today, as witnesses still need summoning and I didn't get to bed till 4 am as I was at that hearing last night
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:09 a.m.
Please summon fiblywibly
rummyrummy used
/summon
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-11 10:14 a.m.
:white_check_mark: Successfully summoned @fiblywibly(edited)
rummyrummy used
/add
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-11 10:14 a.m.
Case Modified
@rummy has added @fiblywibly to the case channel.
rummy
rummy 2025-08-11 10:14 a.m.
@Brit
rummyrummy
@Brit
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:14 a.m.
Can the witness be sworn in
rummy
rummy 2025-08-11 10:18 a.m.
Of course
rummy
rummy 2025-08-11 10:19 a.m.
@fiblywibly
rummyrummy used
/administeroath
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-11 10:19 a.m.
@fiblywibly(edited)
Oath Selection
Which type of oath would you like to swear to?

Religious - Involves swearing to god that your testimony is, or will be, truthful.

Non-Religious - Solemnly affirms that your testimony is, or will be, truthful, under the pains and penalties of perjury.
Religious OathNon-Religious Oath
clerkFlowBotclerkFlow
@fiblywibly
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-11 10:19 a.m.
@fiblywibly
Non-Religious Oath
Do you solemnly affirm that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, under the pains and penalties of perjury?
fiblywibly
fiblywibly 2025-08-11 10:19 a.m.
I do
rummy
rummy 2025-08-11 10:19 a.m.
You may now examine, @Brit
fiblywiblyfiblywibly
I do
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:20 a.m.
Could you provide a brief overview of your role as Secretary of State?
fiblywibly
fiblywibly 2025-08-11 10:21 a.m.
I am the head of the State Department and a member of the governor's cabinet. I oversee all DoS and DPS operations.
fiblywiblyfiblywibly
I am the head of the State Department and a member of the governor's cabinet. I oversee all DoS and DPS operations.
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:21 a.m.
Sorry just for the record could you explain what those acronyms mean
fiblywibly
fiblywibly 2025-08-11 10:22 a.m.
DoS stands for the Department of State, DPS stands for Division of Public Safety.
fiblywiblyfiblywibly
DoS stands for the Department of State, DPS stands for Division of Public Safety.
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:22 a.m.
Are you able to provide a link to the ROBLOX groups for these two if there is one
fiblywibly
fiblywibly 2025-08-11 10:25 a.m.
Mаyflower Department of State is a community on Roblox owned by unionWARE with 283 members. The Mayflower Department of State was officially organized in February of 1902 with the introduction of the Office of the Secretary of State into the cabinet of the State of Mayflower.

The Mayflower Department of State is responsible for the licensing, ...
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:25 a.m.
Perfect thank you
fiblywiblyfiblywibly
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:26 a.m.
@rummy This is self-authenticating but the State did file this as their Exhibit B
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:26 a.m.
We would motion to admit it as such
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:27 a.m.
CC: @DauuX
rummy
rummy 2025-08-11 10:28 a.m.
@Brit You can just write Department of State and Division of Public Safety
rummy
rummy 2025-08-11 10:28 a.m.
The court knows what they are
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-11 10:28 a.m.
@fiblywibly Have the DoS and DPS been limited to only these two groups?
DauuXDauuX
@fiblywibly Have the DoS and DPS been limited to only these two groups?
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:29 a.m.
Woah pal
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:29 a.m.
I'm not done
BritBrit
Woah pal
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-11 10:29 a.m.
Oh sorry, you said you'd ping me when you finished, thought you did. No objections to these exhibits
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-11 10:29 a.m.
apologies
DauuXDauuX
Oh sorry, you said you'd ping me when you finished, thought you did. No objections to these exhibits
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:30 a.m.
All good I did clarify I was pinging you for this, I will re-ping when done with direct
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-11 10:30 a.m.
I retract the question
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:30 a.m.
Thank you
DauuXDauuX
Oh sorry, you said you'd ping me when you finished, thought you did. No objections to these exhibits
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:30 a.m.
@rummy So admitted?
BritBrit
@rummy So admitted?
rummy
rummy 2025-08-11 10:30 a.m.
Yes
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:31 a.m.
@fiblywibly Could you provide an overview of the different divisions within the Division of Public Safety?
rummy
rummy 2025-08-11 10:31 a.m.
If you have objections, and I don’t respond, let Brit continue and we’ll determine wether to strike from record @DauuX
rummy
rummy 2025-08-11 10:31 a.m.
On the move rn
rummyrummy
If you have objections, and I don’t respond, let Brit continue and we’ll determine wether to strike from record @DauuX
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-11 10:31 a.m.
Understood (would've added a reaction to avoid clogging the channel but no perms ://)
BritBrit
@fiblywibly Could you provide an overview of the different divisions within the Division of Public Safety?
fiblywibly
fiblywibly 2025-08-11 10:33 a.m.
Uniformed Security and Public Safety Officer (LE)
fiblywibly
fiblywibly 2025-08-11 10:34 a.m.
As well as a training academy, internal affairs, and administration.
fiblywiblyfiblywibly
As well as a training academy, internal affairs, and administration.
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:34 a.m.
Could you provide a description of what the Uniform Security unit does?
rummy
rummy 2025-08-11 10:43 a.m.
@fiblywibly
BritBrit
Could you provide a description of what the Uniform Security unit does?
fiblywibly
fiblywibly 2025-08-11 10:44 a.m.
Provides security to government offices and property.
fiblywiblyfiblywibly
Provides security to government offices and property.
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:45 a.m.
Could you provide a descritpion of what the Public Safety Officer does?
BritBrit
Could you provide a descritpion of what the Public Safety Officer does?
fiblywibly
fiblywibly 2025-08-11 10:48 a.m.
A Public Safety Officer is a law enforcement officer with LE powers that patrols the state.
fiblywibly
fiblywibly 2025-08-11 10:48 a.m.
However currently we don't employ them.
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:50 a.m.
@fiblywibly Are you familiar with this image?
BritBrit
@fiblywibly Are you familiar with this image?
fiblywibly
fiblywibly 2025-08-11 10:55 a.m.
Yes I took that screenshot.
fiblywiblyfiblywibly
Yes I took that screenshot.
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:56 a.m.
Did you edit or modify the screenshot in anyway?
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 10:56 a.m.
any way*
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 12:47 p.m.
@fiblywibly
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 01:06 p.m.
@rummy Your Honour we'll need to extend the 24 hours. The witness has informed me he's moving house, hence the delay
Brit
Brit 2025-08-11 05:49 p.m.
BritBrit
Did you edit or modify the screenshot in anyway?
Brit
Brit 2025-08-12 11:52 a.m.
@fiblywibly
Brit
Brit 2025-08-12 01:05 p.m.
@fiblywibly
BritBrit
Did you edit or modify the screenshot in anyway?
fiblywibly
fiblywibly 2025-08-12 01:18 p.m.
I did not, no.
BritBrit
@fiblywibly Are you familiar with this image?
Brit
Brit 2025-08-12 01:21 p.m.
@rummy State motions to admit as Exhibit A

CC: @DauuX
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-12 01:22 p.m.
no obj
Brit
Brit 2025-08-12 01:24 p.m.
@rummy So admitted?
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-12 06:13 p.m.
@rummy ?
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-12 08:55 p.m.
@rummy
alex
alex 2025-08-13 03:40 p.m.
@rummy:☹️:
rummy
rummy 2025-08-13 03:41 p.m.
Apologies
rummy
rummy 2025-08-13 03:41 p.m.
I thought you were gonna wrap this up faster @Brit
BritBrit
@rummy State motions to admit as Exhibit A CC: @DauuX
rummy
rummy 2025-08-13 03:41 p.m.
Admitted
rummyrummy
I thought you were gonna wrap this up faster @Brit
Brit
Brit 2025-08-13 03:42 p.m.
Respectfully Your Honour you are the reason for delay
Brit
Brit 2025-08-13 03:42 p.m.
None of this has been caused by me
rummy
rummy 2025-08-13 03:42 p.m.
@Brit Excuse me?
rummy
rummy 2025-08-13 03:42 p.m.
Your witness disappearing randomly
Brit
Brit 2025-08-13 03:43 p.m.
The delay has been caused by you not responding to myself or opposing
rummy
rummy 2025-08-13 03:43 p.m.
Is the cause for delay
rummy
rummy 2025-08-13 03:43 p.m.
I have a schedule, and I had not accounted for your witness disappearing mid-examination
Brit
Brit 2025-08-13 03:43 p.m.
He's moving house Your Honour, that's entirely out of my control
rummy
rummy 2025-08-13 03:44 p.m.
Alas as I mentioned we can't continue without cross examination so let's move it along
rummy
rummy 2025-08-13 03:44 p.m.
Please make sure your witnesses are fully availible for the time of examinationm should you call them
rummy
rummy 2025-08-13 03:44 p.m.
examination *
Brit
Brit 2025-08-13 03:44 p.m.
Will do your honour
Brit
Brit 2025-08-13 03:45 p.m.
We are done with direct examinations
Brit
Brit 2025-08-13 03:45 p.m.
CC: @DauuX
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-13 05:04 p.m.
@fiblywibly Have the DoS and DPS been limited to only these two groups?
DauuXDauuX
@fiblywibly Have the DoS and DPS been limited to only these two groups?
fiblywibly
fiblywibly 2025-08-13 05:05 p.m.
Yes.
fiblywiblyfiblywibly
Yes.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-13 05:06 p.m.
So there has never been a third group for the LEO counterpart of DPS?
fiblywibly
fiblywibly 2025-08-13 05:06 p.m.
There has been.
fiblywibly
fiblywibly 2025-08-13 05:06 p.m.
Currently its these two.
fiblywiblyfiblywibly
There has been.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-13 05:07 p.m.
Are you aware whether the third group operated at the time of the incident alleged of in this criminal action?
fiblywibly
fiblywibly 2025-08-13 05:07 p.m.
It was in operation yes.
fiblywiblyfiblywibly
It was in operation yes.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-13 05:09 p.m.
Are you aware which DPS group, the main one or the additional one (currently not used), gave players LEO powers in-game?
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-13 05:50 p.m.
@fiblywibly
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-13 08:45 p.m.
@fiblywibly
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-13 09:00 p.m.
Alrighty
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-13 09:00 p.m.
I yield @Brit @rummy
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-13 09:00 p.m.
Thank you Mr Fibly
rummy
rummy 2025-08-13 09:31 p.m.
Next witness @Brit
Brit
Brit 2025-08-14 07:24 a.m.
Sorry I had results day today
rummyrummy
Next witness @Brit
Brit
Brit 2025-08-14 07:25 a.m.
State calls @Luso
rummyrummy used
/add
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-14 09:22 a.m.
Case Modified
@rummy has added @Luso to the case channel.
rummyrummy used
/administeroath
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-14 09:22 a.m.
@Luso(edited)
Oath Selection
Which type of oath would you like to swear to?

Religious - Involves swearing to god that your testimony is, or will be, truthful.

Non-Religious - Solemnly affirms that your testimony is, or will be, truthful, under the pains and penalties of perjury.
Religious OathNon-Religious Oath
clerkFlowBotclerkFlow
@Luso
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-14 12:36 p.m.
@Luso
Non-Religious Oath
Do you solemnly affirm that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, under the pains and penalties of perjury?
Luso
Luso 2025-08-14 12:36 p.m.
I do
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-14 01:29 p.m.
@rummy @Brit
DauuXDauuX
@rummy @Brit
Brit
Brit 2025-08-14 01:38 p.m.
Going out with mates on night out
Brit
Brit 2025-08-14 01:38 p.m.
Will deal with later tonight
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-15 03:50 p.m.
@Brit
Brit
Brit 2025-08-15 05:21 p.m.
@Luso Please state your name for the record
BritBrit
@Luso Please state your name for the record
Luso
Luso 2025-08-15 05:27 p.m.
Hi my name is Lusolabs
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-15 05:53 p.m.
@Brit
LusoLuso
Hi my name is Lusolabs
Brit
Brit 2025-08-15 05:56 p.m.
Whst is your position within the Residency's Office?
BritBrit
Whst is your position within the Residency's Office?
Luso
Luso 2025-08-15 06:03 p.m.
I am currently the acting director
LusoLuso
I am currently the acting director
Brit
Brit 2025-08-15 06:04 p.m.
How long have you been in the office
BritBrit
How long have you been in the office
Luso
Luso 2025-08-15 06:04 p.m.
I've been employed in the residency office for around 6-7 months now
LusoLuso
I've been employed in the residency office for around 6-7 months now
Brit
Brit 2025-08-15 06:07 p.m.
What do your day to day responsibilities look like
BritBrit
What do your day to day responsibilities look like
Luso
Luso 2025-08-15 06:11 p.m.
I oversee the day to day function of the residency office, which includes policymaking and other residency matters
LusoLuso
I oversee the day to day function of the residency office, which includes policymaking and other residency matters
Brit
Brit 2025-08-15 06:12 p.m.
@rummy Move to admit as expert witness
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-15 07:23 p.m.
no objection
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-15 07:23 p.m.
@rummy
alex
alex 2025-08-16 11:55 a.m.
@rummy
rummy
rummy 2025-08-16 12:37 p.m.
Yes
rummy
rummy 2025-08-16 12:37 p.m.
Admitted
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 12:39 p.m.
@Brit
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 12:39 p.m.
@Luso As part of your role what logs can you access?
BritBrit
@Luso As part of your role what logs can you access?
Luso
Luso 2025-08-16 04:28 p.m.
I cannot divulge this information, sorry
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 04:30 p.m.
@rummy
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 04:45 p.m.
We'd like to remind the Court that affairs concerning the Central Authority (under which the Residency Office operates) are entirely outside of this Court's jurisdiction (unless otherwise authorised, such as in deportation proceedings)
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 04:46 p.m.
That information cannot be compelled, as it goes beyond the RP aspect of our State
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 04:46 p.m.
cc @Brit @rummy
DauuXDauuX
We'd like to remind the Court that affairs concerning the Central Authority (under which the Residency Office operates) are entirely outside of this Court's jurisdiction (unless ot...
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 04:49 p.m.
Residency office isnt outside the court's scope
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 04:49 p.m.
Residency office has been compelled before on numerous occasions
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 04:49 p.m.
I can re-word the question though it doesn't bother me
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 04:49 p.m.
Residiency Office logs, moderation logs, dispense logs, etc., have never been allowed to be used as evidence in courts
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 04:50 p.m.
Mod logs can be used as evidence in courts
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 04:50 p.m.
They literally form part of our laws lol, integral part of BGCs
BritBrit
@Luso As part of your role what logs can you access?
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 04:50 p.m.
I'll withdraw
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 04:50 p.m.
@Luso Can you access residency logs?
BritBrit
Mod logs can be used as evidence in courts
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 04:53 p.m.
yeah the publicly available ones
DauuXDauuX
yeah the publicly available ones
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 04:53 p.m.
Please don't interrupt the transcript without good reason
BritBrit
@Luso Can you access residency logs?
Luso
Luso 2025-08-16 04:54 p.m.
No because I'm not ranked director in the group, but I cannot share more than this other than my findings from other sources.
LusoLuso
No because I'm not ranked director in the group, but I cannot share more than this other than my findings from other sources.
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 04:54 p.m.
You cannot access logs which are biblically available?
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 04:55 p.m.
publicly*
BritBrit
You cannot access logs which are biblically available?
Luso
Luso 2025-08-16 04:57 p.m.
I can yes, my other answer was more about internal sources rather than public sources
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 04:59 p.m.
@Brit
LusoLuso
I can yes, my other answer was more about internal sources rather than public sources
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 05:02 p.m.
What was the residency status of Voidness on June 11th, 2025?
BritBrit
What was the residency status of Voidness on June 11th, 2025?
Luso
Luso 2025-08-16 05:11 p.m.
Voidness was a tourist on that date
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 05:12 p.m.
Thank you for your time, that's all from me.
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 05:12 p.m.
@DauuX
LusoLuso
Voidness was a tourist on that date
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 05:15 p.m.
How has this been verified?
DauuXDauuX
How has this been verified?
Luso
Luso 2025-08-16 05:17 p.m.
Through internal logs
LusoLuso
Through internal logs
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 05:18 p.m.
Do the logs display the status of a person on a specific day?
DauuXDauuX
Do the logs display the status of a person on a specific day?
Luso
Luso 2025-08-16 05:34 p.m.
I cannot divulge this information, sorry
LusoLuso
I cannot divulge this information, sorry
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 05:35 p.m.
Are you sure that Voidness was not a citizen on that day, or is that an inference based on something?
DauuXDauuX
Are you sure that Voidness was not a citizen on that day, or is that an inference based on something?
Luso
Luso 2025-08-16 06:13 p.m.
I am sure he wasn't a resident that day sir
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 06:14 p.m.
Alrighty
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 06:14 p.m.
I move to strike @rummy
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 06:14 p.m.
none of this can be verified
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 06:16 p.m.
cc @Brit
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 06:18 p.m.
Your Honour they are publicly available records that verify this
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 06:18 p.m.
Which the witness has testified to
BritBrit
Your Honour they are publicly available records that verify this
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 06:18 p.m.
Are we going to base on this public records?
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 06:18 p.m.
The witness just cannot speak to internal records as they said
DauuXDauuX
Are we going to base on this public records?
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 06:18 p.m.
That makes no sense
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 06:19 p.m.
Alright I shall continue my cross
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 06:19 p.m.
@Luso Does the user StateMilitiaStock hold citizenship?
BritBrit
That makes no sense
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 06:24 p.m.
(Yes, was meant to be: "Are we going to base this on public records?", as opposed to any internal records)
DauuXDauuX
(Yes, was meant to be: "Are we going to base this on public records?", as opposed to any internal records)
Brit
Brit 2025-08-16 06:24 p.m.
I assume you'd best ask the witnes
DauuXDauuX
@Luso Does the user StateMilitiaStock hold citizenship?
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 07:09 p.m.
@Luso
DauuXDauuX
@Luso Does the user StateMilitiaStock hold citizenship?
Luso
Luso 2025-08-16 07:22 p.m.
Yes
LusoLuso
Yes
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 07:22 p.m.
Does his username appear in the public citizenship logs?
DauuXDauuX
Does his username appear in the public citizenship logs?
Luso
Luso 2025-08-16 07:23 p.m.
No, because any people who gain residency through the unionFLOW bot are not logged publicly.
LusoLuso
No, because any people who gain residency through the unionFLOW bot are not logged publicly.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 07:24 p.m.
Based on that, it is possible to hold citizenship without appearing in the residency logs channel?
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 07:26 p.m.
A yes/no will do
DauuXDauuX
Based on that, it is possible to hold citizenship without appearing in the residency logs channel?
Luso
Luso 2025-08-16 07:27 p.m.
Yes
LusoLuso
I am sure he wasn't a resident that day sir
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 07:27 p.m.
Was this answer based on public or internal records?
DauuXDauuX
Was this answer based on public or internal records?
Luso
Luso 2025-08-16 07:27 p.m.
Both public and internal records sir
LusoLuso
Both public and internal records sir
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 07:28 p.m.
Having established that the public records are not always correct/precise, is it possible that (based only on public records), Voidness could technically possess citizenship?
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 07:29 p.m.
could have possessed*
DauuXDauuX
Having established that the public records are not always correct/precise, is it possible that (based only on public records), Voidness could technically possess citizenship?
Luso
Luso 2025-08-16 07:29 p.m.
No
LusoLuso
No
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 07:29 p.m.
How come?
DauuXDauuX
How come?
Luso
Luso 2025-08-16 07:31 p.m.
Per the [Residency FAQ](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YdD8Qs6bJvffoi6t08GSJovwteeTu99S5edcGbWnSgY/edit?tab=t.0), it states that the user must meet the predetermined requirements the bot has in place. If the user was accepted into the State of Mayflower group as a State Tourist, then that means they were rejected by the bot.
Frequently Asked Questions Residency Office “How do I get residency?” There are two primary ways to obtain residency in the State of Mayflower group: Automatically - This is probably the easiest way. The developers of the game have created a bot named “unionFLOW” which automatically accepts us...
LusoLuso
Per the [Residency FAQ](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YdD8Qs6bJvffoi6t08GSJovwteeTu99S5edcGbWnSgY/edit?tab=t.0), it states that the user must meet the predetermined requireme...
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 07:33 p.m.
So you infer that because he is currently ranked Tourist, he must have failed the requirements?
DauuXDauuX
So you infer that because he is currently ranked Tourist, he must have failed the requirements?
Luso
Luso 2025-08-16 07:34 p.m.
Yes
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 07:34 p.m.
Ok makes sense lowkey
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 07:34 p.m.
I yield @rummy @Brit
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 07:34 p.m.
thank you @Luso
DauuXDauuX
I move to strike @rummy
rummy
rummy 2025-08-16 07:51 p.m.
Please specify what items you want to strike
rummy
rummy 2025-08-16 07:51 p.m.
Or if you want to strike the witnesses entire testimony
rummyrummy
Please specify what items you want to strike
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 07:53 p.m.
Given the rationale, I withdraw the motion to strike
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-16 07:53 p.m.
It was later clarified by the witness that it does not come from internal logs (which was my main concern)
Brit
Brit 2025-08-17 06:41 a.m.
@rummy State will like to summon Aerzoid
Brit
Brit 2025-08-17 06:41 a.m.
would*
rummyrummy used
/summon
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-17 10:44 a.m.
:white_check_mark: Successfully summoned @aerzoid(edited)
rummyrummy used
/add
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-17 10:44 a.m.
Case Modified
@rummy has added @aerzoid to the case channel.
rummyrummy used
/administeroath
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-17 10:44 a.m.
@aerzoid(edited)
Oath Selection
Which type of oath would you like to swear to?

Religious - Involves swearing to god that your testimony is, or will be, truthful.

Non-Religious - Solemnly affirms that your testimony is, or will be, truthful, under the pains and penalties of perjury.
Religious OathNon-Religious Oath
clerkFlowBotclerkFlow
@aerzoid
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-17 10:59 a.m.
@aerzoid
Non-Religious Oath
Do you solemnly affirm that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, under the pains and penalties of perjury?
aerzoid
aerzoid 2025-08-17 11:00 a.m.
Yes
rummy
rummy 2025-08-17 11:09 a.m.
@Brit
aerzoidaerzoid
Yes
Brit
Brit 2025-08-17 11:49 a.m.
Are you familiar with the Mayflower Department of Justice Criminal tipline?
BritBrit
Are you familiar with the Mayflower Department of Justice Criminal tipline?
aerzoid
aerzoid 2025-08-17 12:26 p.m.
Yea
aerzoidaerzoid
Yea
Brit
Brit 2025-08-17 12:30 p.m.
Did you submit a tip to this tipline regarding Nukhz on June 16th, 2025?
Brit
Brit 2025-08-17 12:31 p.m.
15th*
Brit
Brit 2025-08-17 12:31 p.m.
Sorry June 13th my discord is glitching rather heavily
BritBrit
Did you submit a tip to this tipline regarding Nukhz on June 16th, 2025?
aerzoid
aerzoid 2025-08-17 12:32 p.m.
Yes
aerzoidaerzoid
Yes
Brit
Brit 2025-08-17 12:32 p.m.
Why was that?
BritBrit
Why was that?
aerzoid
aerzoid 2025-08-17 12:35 p.m.
I believe he accepted a individual into DPS groups that then proceeded to go rouge
Brit
Brit 2025-08-17 12:36 p.m.
Alright thank you
Brit
Brit 2025-08-17 12:36 p.m.
@DauuX
aerzoidaerzoid
I believe he accepted a individual into DPS groups that then proceeded to go rouge
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 12:40 p.m.
To which DPS groups did Defendant accept that individual?
DauuXDauuX
To which DPS groups did Defendant accept that individual?
aerzoid
aerzoid 2025-08-17 12:43 p.m.
Division Of Public Safety is a community on Roblox owned by unionWARE with 50 members.
aerzoid
aerzoid 2025-08-17 12:43 p.m.
Mаyflower Department of State is a community on Roblox owned by unionWARE with 281 members. The Mayflower Department of State was officially organized in February of 1902 with the introduction of the Office of the Secretary of State into the cabinet of the State of Mayflower.

The Mayflower Department of State is responsible for the licensing, ...
aerzoidaerzoid
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 12:44 p.m.
What position did you hold in DOS at the time of the incident which made you submit the tipline?
DauuXDauuX
What position did you hold in DOS at the time of the incident which made you submit the tipline?
aerzoid
aerzoid 2025-08-17 12:45 p.m.
Supervisory Special Agent
aerzoidaerzoid
Supervisory Special Agent
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 12:46 p.m.
Based on your knowledge, is either of the two groups you’ve just named the law enforcement counterpart of DPS?
aerzoidaerzoid
aerzoid
aerzoid 2025-08-17 12:47 p.m.
This is the group that allows you LE tools, and vehicles
aerzoidaerzoid
aerzoid
aerzoid 2025-08-17 12:47 p.m.
This allows you access onto the team
DauuXDauuX
Based on your knowledge, is either of the two groups you’ve just named the law enforcement counterpart of DPS?
Brit
Brit 2025-08-17 12:53 p.m.
@rummy This goes beyond the scope of a lay witness
BritBrit
@rummy This goes beyond the scope of a lay witness
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 01:00 p.m.
Alright, we can strike the question and the answer
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 01:01 p.m.
Since the answer is not relevant to the question asked
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 01:01 p.m.
I yield, we can proceed with next witness @Brit @rummy
Brit
Brit 2025-08-17 01:02 p.m.
State rests

@rummy
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 01:03 p.m.
@poontang is first on ours
rummyrummy used
/summon
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-17 01:12 p.m.
:white_check_mark: Successfully summoned @poontang(edited)
rummyrummy used
/add
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-17 01:12 p.m.
Case Modified
@rummy has added @poontang to the case channel.
rummyrummy used
/administeroath
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-17 01:13 p.m.
@poontang(edited)
Oath Selection
Which type of oath would you like to swear to?

Religious - Involves swearing to god that your testimony is, or will be, truthful.

Non-Religious - Solemnly affirms that your testimony is, or will be, truthful, under the pains and penalties of perjury.
Religious OathNon-Religious Oath
clerkFlowBotclerkFlow
@poontang
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-08-17 02:24 p.m.
@poontang
Religious Oath
Do you solemnly swear that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, so help you god?
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 02:25 p.m.
I do
Brit
Brit 2025-08-17 03:19 p.m.
@DauuX
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 03:31 p.m.
@poontang What position did you hold in DOS at the time when Defendant allegedly accepted Voidness?
DauuXDauuX
@poontang What position did you hold in DOS at the time when Defendant allegedly accepted Voidness?
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 03:39 p.m.
Deputy Director
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 03:41 p.m.
Actually, when did this allegedly take place?
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 03:41 p.m.
I was Director then stepped down as I became a Senator and recently came back as Deputy Director
Brit
Brit 2025-08-17 04:30 p.m.
@DauuX
poontangpoontang
Actually, when did this allegedly take place?
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 04:41 p.m.
What was your rank in the DOS on 11 June, 2025?
DauuXDauuX
What was your rank in the DOS on 11 June, 2025?
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 04:47 p.m.
Supervisory Public Safety Officer
poontangpoontang
Supervisory Public Safety Officer
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 05:04 p.m.
When did you assume the position of Director of the DPS?
DauuXDauuX
When did you assume the position of Director of the DPS?
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 05:59 p.m.
25/03/2025, I was responsible for forming DPS from the defunct DSS
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 06:00 p.m.
I resigned as Director on 06/05/2025 and became Supervisory Public Safety Officer
poontangpoontang
25/03/2025, I was responsible for forming DPS from the defunct DSS
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 06:00 p.m.
Please look at this image: https://imgur.com/LgrFwZt
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 06:01 p.m.
Let me know once done
DauuXDauuX
Please look at this image: https://imgur.com/LgrFwZt
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 06:10 p.m.
Yes I’m looking at it
poontangpoontang
Yes I’m looking at it
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 06:11 p.m.
Is that image an accurate depiction of a conversation you had with m_alpractice (continuality), a developer, regarding the DPS PSB (DPS LE) groip?
DauuXDauuX
Is that image an accurate depiction of a conversation you had with m_alpractice (continuality), a developer, regarding the DPS PSB (DPS LE) groip?
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 06:12 p.m.
Yes, I was told by the Interim Secretary of State A1exCarter that DPS was receiving a DPS LE group as we had expanded our non-LEO security operations, thus we needed to divide the permissions
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 06:13 p.m.
I created the group and handed m_alpractise ownership
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 06:13 p.m.
We move to admit the image @Brit @rummy
DauuXDauuX
We move to admit the image @Brit @rummy
rummy
rummy 2025-08-17 06:16 p.m.
Admitted
poontangpoontang
Yes, I was told by the Interim Secretary of State A1exCarter that DPS was receiving a DPS LE group as we had expanded our non-LEO security operations, thus we needed to divide the ...
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 06:18 p.m.
Please review this image: https://imgur.com/gTvZqWE
DauuXDauuX
Please review this image: https://imgur.com/gTvZqWE
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 06:18 p.m.
I have reviewed it
poontangpoontang
I have reviewed it
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 06:19 p.m.
Is it an accurate depiction of an announcement you made to DPS LE members regarding the newly set up group on 24 April 2025?
DauuXDauuX
Is it an accurate depiction of an announcement you made to DPS LE members regarding the newly set up group on 24 April 2025?
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 06:19 p.m.
Yes it is
DauuXDauuX
Please review this image: https://imgur.com/gTvZqWE
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 06:19 p.m.
@rummy @Brit move to admit the image
DauuXDauuX
@rummy @Brit move to admit the image
rummy
rummy 2025-08-17 06:22 p.m.
Admitted
poontangpoontang
Yes it is
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 06:23 p.m.
Which group (main DPS or DPS LE) conferred upon its members LEO powers in-game?
DauuXDauuX
Which group (main DPS or DPS LE) conferred upon its members LEO powers in-game?
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 06:24 p.m.
DPS LE
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 06:25 p.m.
DPS main group had LEO powers in-game prior to the DPS LE group being created
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 06:26 p.m.
That’s why it was required, as our role shifted and required more security, rather than police
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 06:38 p.m.
After the DPS LE group was established, were all ranks of the main DPS group used for the Security Office? @poontang
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 06:39 p.m.
The main DPS group was for both security and LEO personnel due to the equipment perms ingame being limited to one group. I asked CA to change the group ranked to reflect this but it was not completed.
poontangpoontang
The main DPS group was for both security and LEO personnel due to the equipment perms ingame being limited to one group. I asked CA to change the group ranked to reflect this but i...
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 06:41 p.m.
Please review Prosecution's Exhibit A:
DauuXDauuX
Please review Prosecution's Exhibit A:
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 06:41 p.m.
I have reviewed it
poontangpoontang
I have reviewed it
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 06:42 p.m.
Does the rank of Special Agent in the main DPS group carry with it any in-game LEO powers?
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 06:42 p.m.
No
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 06:43 p.m.
Alrighty, I yield
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-17 06:43 p.m.
@Brit
DauuXDauuX
Is that image an accurate depiction of a conversation you had with m_alpractice (continuality), a developer, regarding the DPS PSB (DPS LE) groip?
Brit
Brit 2025-08-17 07:18 p.m.
Objection leading @rummy
DauuXDauuX
Is it an accurate depiction of an announcement you made to DPS LE members regarding the newly set up group on 24 April 2025?
Brit
Brit 2025-08-17 07:19 p.m.
Objection leading @rummy
poontang
poontang 2025-08-17 07:38 p.m.
fym objection bro that’s my screenshots :🥀:
Brit
Brit 2025-08-17 08:26 p.m.
@rummy We move for contempt sanctions on the disorderly witness
Brit
Brit 2025-08-18 07:47 p.m.
@rummy
rummy
rummy 2025-08-18 09:02 p.m.
@poontang behave
rummy
rummy 2025-08-18 09:02 p.m.
no sanctions
rummy
rummy 2025-08-18 09:02 p.m.
will review objections after
rummy
rummy 2025-08-18 09:03 p.m.
and of course have a transcript of fully accounted record
rummy
rummy 2025-08-18 09:03 p.m.
@DauuX continue
rummy
rummy 2025-08-18 09:03 p.m.
Oh wait
rummy
rummy 2025-08-18 09:03 p.m.
Yield
rummy
rummy 2025-08-18 09:03 p.m.
Perfect
rummy
rummy 2025-08-18 09:03 p.m.
Closing arguments, @Brit
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-18 09:03 p.m.
No no
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-18 09:03 p.m.
I yield for cross
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-18 09:03 p.m.
Not resting my case yet :🥀:
Brit
Brit 2025-08-18 09:06 p.m.
@rummy Please rule on my objections before I begin cross
rummy
rummy 2025-08-18 09:43 p.m.
Ah
BritBrit
@rummy Please rule on my objections before I begin cross
rummy
rummy 2025-08-18 09:43 p.m.
Very well
rummy
rummy 2025-08-18 09:43 p.m.
Gonna need a bit since I’m not home
alex
alex 2025-08-19 05:53 p.m.
@rummy :🙏:
Brit
Brit 2025-08-21 06:05 a.m.
@rummy
alex
alex 2025-08-22 05:48 a.m.
@rummy :🙏:
alex
alex 2025-08-22 05:48 a.m.
Speedy trial Please!!
Brit
Brit 2025-08-22 12:24 p.m.
@jask 3
rummy
rummy 2025-08-22 12:36 p.m.
It’s orientation week
rummy
rummy 2025-08-22 12:36 p.m.
chamber-information
alex
alex 2025-08-22 01:06 p.m.
:😾:
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-27 05:17 p.m.
@rummy
Brit
Brit 2025-08-28 07:21 a.m.
I'm at University from September 7th - 27th, during which time my availability would significantly decrease, I think both parties are interested in geting this done
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-28 09:01 a.m.
@rummy
rummy
rummy 2025-08-28 12:09 p.m.
Position on objections, @DauuX
rummyrummy
Position on objections, @DauuX
DauuX
DauuX 2025-08-28 12:12 p.m.
Those are technical objections which do not result in any prejudice/unfairness to either party
rummy
rummy 2025-09-02 03:54 p.m.
Sustained. Both questions are leading. Counsel, rephrase your questions in a non-leading manner or drop.

CC: @DauuX @Brit
BritBrit
I'm at University from September 7th - 27th, during which time my availability would significantly decrease, I think both parties are interested in geting this done
rummy
rummy 2025-09-02 03:54 p.m.
I'm in the same position but as of now, have carved out the time now to move with speed.
poontangpoontang
Yes I’m looking at it
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-02 03:57 p.m.
Do you recognise this image?
DauuXDauuX
Do you recognise this image?
poontang
poontang 2025-09-02 04:01 p.m.
Yes I do, I took the screenshot myself
poontangpoontang
Yes I do, I took the screenshot myself
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-02 04:01 p.m.
Did you modify or edit the screenshot in any way?
poontang
poontang 2025-09-02 04:01 p.m.
No
rummyrummy
Sustained. Both questions are leading. Counsel, rephrase your questions in a non-leading manner or drop. CC: @DauuX @Brit
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-02 04:02 p.m.
Unsure whether you want us to re-admit the exhibit?
DauuXDauuX
Unsure whether you want us to re-admit the exhibit?
rummy
rummy 2025-09-02 04:12 p.m.
No need to reintroduce just the line of questioning
poontangpoontang
I have reviewed it
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-02 04:13 p.m.
Do you recognise the image?
poontang
poontang 2025-09-02 04:15 p.m.
Yes I do
poontang
poontang 2025-09-02 04:15 p.m.
No it is not modified or edited
poontangpoontang
Yes I do
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-02 04:15 p.m.
Did you modify or edit the screenshot in any way?
poontang
poontang 2025-09-02 04:15 p.m.
No
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-02 04:15 p.m.
Alright
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-02 04:16 p.m.
Since there were no objections to the other questions, I yield for this witness. @Brit
alex
alex 2025-09-04 10:22 a.m.
@Brit
Brit
Brit 2025-09-04 10:48 a.m.
The judge quit
Brit
Brit 2025-09-04 10:48 a.m.
@rummy That was you correct
BritBrit
The judge quit
alex
alex 2025-09-04 10:50 a.m.
????????????
rummy
rummy 2025-09-04 02:17 p.m.
I have not quit @Brit
rummyrummy
I have not quit @Brit
Brit
Brit 2025-09-04 02:17 p.m.
must have been a dream I had then
Brit
Brit 2025-09-04 02:17 p.m.
I apologise Your Honour
rummy
rummy 2025-09-04 02:18 p.m.
No worries I understand with school stuff picks up
Brit
Brit 2025-09-04 02:19 p.m.
@poontang What is the minimum rank granted to those with LEO powers within the main DPS group?
poontang
poontang 2025-09-04 02:23 p.m.
Disregard my previous message, I read your question wrong
poontang
poontang 2025-09-04 02:24 p.m.
LEO powers are NOT from the main DPS group, they are only granted in the ‘DPS Public Safety Bureau’ group
poontang
poontang 2025-09-04 02:24 p.m.
This group which is now defunct
Brit
Brit 2025-09-04 02:28 p.m.
@poontang Please don't delete any messages from the record
poontangpoontang
This group which is now defunct
Brit
Brit 2025-09-04 02:28 p.m.
You've misunderstood my question, those who are granted LEOs and within the DPS PUblic Safety Bureau, what is the minimum rank they hold within the main DPS group?
poontang
poontang 2025-09-04 02:29 p.m.
Irrespective to their rank within the main DPS group
poontang
poontang 2025-09-04 02:30 p.m.
There was no set rank from the main DPS group that someone in PSB had to have, as the main group ranks are outdated
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-04 03:03 p.m.
@Brit
poontangpoontang
There was no set rank from the main DPS group that someone in PSB had to have, as the main group ranks are outdated
Brit
Brit 2025-09-04 03:04 p.m.
Interesting
Brit
Brit 2025-09-04 03:04 p.m.
@rummy Nothing further
rummy
rummy 2025-09-04 08:22 p.m.
@DauuX
rummy
rummy 2025-09-05 03:40 p.m.
@DauuX
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-05 03:41 p.m.
Yes sorry
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-05 03:42 p.m.
WoodenDanny12 @rummy
rummy
rummy 2025-09-07 12:21 p.m.
He’s not in server @DauuX
rummy
rummy 2025-09-07 12:21 p.m.
As such he can’t be summoned by bot, please draft summons
rummyrummy
He’s not in server @DauuX
alex
alex 2025-09-07 02:59 p.m.
I believe he has now joined
rummy
rummy 2025-09-08 06:07 p.m.
@woodendanny12
alexalex
I believe he has now joined
rummy
rummy 2025-09-08 06:07 p.m.
What’s his discord?
rummyrummy
What’s his discord?
alex
alex 2025-09-08 06:07 p.m.
@Danny
rummyrummy used
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clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-09-08 10:07 p.m.
:white_check_mark: Successfully summoned @Danny(edited)
rummyrummy used
/add
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-09-08 10:07 p.m.
Case Modified
@rummy has added @Danny to the case channel.
rummyrummy used
/administeroath
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-09-08 10:07 p.m.
@Danny(edited)
Oath Selection
Which type of oath would you like to swear to?

Religious - Involves swearing to god that your testimony is, or will be, truthful.

Non-Religious - Solemnly affirms that your testimony is, or will be, truthful, under the pains and penalties of perjury.
Religious OathNon-Religious Oath
clerkFlowBotclerkFlow
@Danny
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-09-08 10:18 p.m.
@Danny
Non-Religious Oath
Do you solemnly affirm that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, under the pains and penalties of perjury?
Danny
Danny 2025-09-08 10:18 p.m.
I do
rummy
rummy 2025-09-08 10:35 p.m.
@DauuX
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-09 03:54 p.m.
@Danny Please state your name for the record
DauuXDauuX
@Danny Please state your name for the record
Danny
Danny 2025-09-09 05:19 p.m.
My name is WoodenDanny12
DannyDanny
My name is WoodenDanny12
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-09 05:19 p.m.
Have you ever been employed by the DPS?
DauuXDauuX
Have you ever been employed by the DPS?
Danny
Danny 2025-09-09 05:19 p.m.
Yes I have.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-09 05:20 p.m.
Since when have you been employed in the DPS?
DauuXDauuX
Since when have you been employed in the DPS?
Danny
Danny 2025-09-09 05:21 p.m.
I have been employed by DPS since 4/9/2025. I am unsure of how I currently stand due to the reworrking of DPS but I am still employed just waiting for their new training course.
DannyDanny
I have been employed by DPS since 4/9/2025. I am unsure of how I currently stand due to the reworrking of DPS but I am still employed just waiting for their new training course.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-09 05:22 p.m.
Did you, for any period throughout your employment, hold a role containing the words "Special Agent" in the main DPS Roblox group?
DauuXDauuX
Did you, for any period throughout your employment, hold a role containing the words "Special Agent" in the main DPS Roblox group?
Danny
Danny 2025-09-09 05:23 p.m.
Yes I did for my entire employment until the current reworking of their standards.
DannyDanny
Yes I did for my entire employment until the current reworking of their standards.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-09 05:23 p.m.
When did the reworking begin?
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-09 05:24 p.m.
Just the month and year will do
DauuXDauuX
When did the reworking begin?
Danny
Danny 2025-09-09 05:24 p.m.
August 2025
DannyDanny
August 2025
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-09 05:24 p.m.
Have you ever had a LETI certification in this State?
DauuXDauuX
Have you ever had a LETI certification in this State?
Danny
Danny 2025-09-09 05:24 p.m.
No.
DannyDanny
No.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-09 05:25 p.m.
Did you receive any police powers by virtue of your membership and rank in the main DPS group?
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-09 05:25 p.m.
police powers in game,* specifically
Danny
Danny 2025-09-09 05:25 p.m.
No, I had no arrest/booking permissions.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-09 05:26 p.m.
Thank you
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-09 05:26 p.m.
I yield @rummy @Brit
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-09 05:26 p.m.
unless there are any objections and anything needs rephrasing
rummy
rummy 2025-09-09 07:36 p.m.
@Brit
DauuXDauuX
Did you receive any police powers by virtue of your membership and rank in the main DPS group?
Brit
Brit 2025-09-10 09:43 a.m.
This is technically an improper question, by leading @rummy
BritBrit
This is technically an improper question, by leading @rummy
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-10 09:44 a.m.
How's that leading
DauuXDauuX
How's that leading
Brit
Brit 2025-09-10 09:44 a.m.
Your asking narrowly scoped questions to get an answer which you desire
Brit
Brit 2025-09-10 09:44 a.m.
You're*
Brit
Brit 2025-09-10 09:44 a.m.
By narrowly scoped I mean closed
Brit
Brit 2025-09-10 09:44 a.m.
It's improper for direct
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-10 09:45 a.m.
I'm asking a question that this prosecution is wholly about
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-10 09:45 a.m.
do they get police powers because of the group they're in?
Brit
Brit 2025-09-10 09:45 a.m.
You can ask a leading question and it still be relevant to the case
Brit
Brit 2025-09-10 09:45 a.m.
The two aren't in any way mutually exclusive
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-10 09:46 a.m.
Well I can ask "What police powers did you receive because of your employment in the DPS?" if you prefer that
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-10 09:51 a.m.
but I disagree that it's leading, it does not suggest an answer
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ
shah_khaled ᴘᴄ 2025-09-12 09:53 a.m.
@Brit @DauuX continue
shah_khaled ᴘᴄshah_khaled ᴘᴄ
@Brit @DauuX continue
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-12 09:53 a.m.
I’m done with mine
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-12 09:53 a.m.
Waiting for Rummy to rule on objections
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-12 09:53 a.m.
cc Brit
alex
alex 2025-09-13 03:10 p.m.
@rummy :☹️:
alex
alex 2025-09-14 12:25 p.m.
@rummy :☹️:
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-14 12:59 p.m.
My client is very sad.
alex
alex 2025-09-15 02:22 p.m.
@rummy :☹️:
alex
alex 2025-09-15 02:22 p.m.
@krm Help I need Shah care
rummy
rummy 2025-09-15 05:09 p.m.
Reviewing today
alex
alex 2025-09-17 04:02 a.m.
@rummy :☹️:
alex
alex 2025-09-17 04:02 a.m.
You break my Heart.
BritBrit
This is technically an improper question, by leading @rummy
rummy
rummy 2025-09-17 09:23 p.m.
Sustained
rummy
rummy 2025-09-17 09:23 p.m.
Proper foundation must be laid first
rummy
rummy 2025-09-17 09:23 p.m.
CC: @alex
alex
alex 2025-09-17 09:25 p.m.
Yay
alex
alex 2025-09-17 09:25 p.m.
@DauuX
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-18 07:00 a.m.
What branch did you serve under in the DPS?
@Danny
DauuXDauuX
What branch did you serve under in the DPS? @Danny
Danny
Danny 2025-09-18 12:30 p.m.
I was first uniformed security then I got chosen to be part of their Specialized Response Team (still as a security officer as I have no LETI).
DannyDanny
I was first uniformed security then I got chosen to be part of their Specialized Response Team (still as a security officer as I have no LETI).
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-19 07:55 a.m.
What did your day-to-day duties and operations look like in your capacity as a security officer?
DauuXDauuX
What did your day-to-day duties and operations look like in your capacity as a security officer?
Danny
Danny 2025-09-20 02:23 p.m.
My day to day duties were: Protecting the Capitol, Protecting State officials, and protecting court and senate sessions.
DannyDanny
My day to day duties were: Protecting the Capitol, Protecting State officials, and protecting court and senate sessions.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-20 02:24 p.m.
What police powers or functions did you exercise during your employment?
DauuXDauuX
What police powers or functions did you exercise during your employment?
Danny
Danny 2025-09-20 02:26 p.m.
The only police powers/functions that I had/used was the ability to detain individuals with handcuffs.
DannyDanny
The only police powers/functions that I had/used was the ability to detain individuals with handcuffs.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-20 02:27 p.m.
What groups were you part of during your employment in the DPS?
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-20 02:28 p.m.
Just the DOS/DPS related groups
Danny
Danny 2025-09-20 02:28 p.m.
I was in the department of state group and the division of public safety group.
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-20 02:28 p.m.
Alright, thank you
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-20 02:28 p.m.
@Brit @rummy yield unless there are some objections
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clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-09-21 08:58 p.m.
Case Modified
@rummy has added @meowiitten to the case channel.
meowiitten
meowiitten 2025-09-21 09:03 p.m.
@rummy Your honor, we will be entering a notice of nolle prosequi, but since this is at the trial stage, it must be dismissed with prejudice.
meowiitten
meowiitten 2025-09-21 09:04 p.m.
@DauuX Any objections?
meowiittenmeowiitten
@rummy Your honor, we will be entering a notice of nolle prosequi, but since this is at the trial stage, it must be dismissed with prejudice.
rummy
rummy 2025-09-21 09:04 p.m.
written motion pls, and some authority on wo prej for the record is greatly appreciated
rummy
rummy 2025-09-21 09:04 p.m.
sorry
rummy
rummy 2025-09-21 09:05 p.m.
with *
rummy
rummy 2025-09-21 09:05 p.m.
doesn't need to be overly extensive
rummyrummy
written motion pls, and some authority on wo prej for the record is greatly appreciated
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-21 09:05 p.m.
It’d be because of double jeopardy
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-21 09:05 p.m.
Once the first witness is sworn in, jeopardy attaches
rummy
rummy 2025-09-21 09:05 p.m.
i'm aware
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-21 09:05 p.m.
Do you want authority for that
rummy
rummy 2025-09-21 09:05 p.m.
like to keep the reocord clean nonetheless
rummyrummy
doesn't need to be overly extensive
rummy
rummy 2025-09-21 09:05 p.m.
^
rummy
rummy 2025-09-21 09:06 p.m.
record*
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-21 09:06 p.m.
I mean I’d prefer an acquittal but I’m not going to burden the Court and brit unnecessarily
DauuXDauuX
I mean I’d prefer an acquittal but I’m not going to burden the Court and brit unnecessarily
meowiitten
meowiitten 2025-09-21 09:07 p.m.
Dismissal with prejudice is fine
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-21 09:08 p.m.
Well whatever
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-21 09:09 p.m.
So long as my client is free, I won’t object
meowiitten
meowiitten 2025-09-21 09:09 p.m.
Yes I agree
meowiitten
meowiitten 2025-09-21 09:09 p.m.
He should be free
meowiitten
meowiitten 2025-09-21 09:09 p.m.
@DauuX I agree he should be free
DauuX
DauuX 2025-09-21 09:09 p.m.
Lovely
meowiitten
meowiitten 2025-09-21 09:13 p.m.
@rummy @DauuX
rummy
rummy 2025-09-21 10:34 p.m.
Dismissed with prejudice
rummy
rummy 2025-09-21 10:34 p.m.
AFUERA
rummy
rummy 2025-09-22 02:02 a.m.
CC: @Kezzera

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clerkFlow Bot2025-10-04 04:13 p.m.
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